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Author Topic: Odd Light problem 05 X9 500 Evo  (Read 3207 times)
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« on: May 30, 2022, 08:36:01 »

 I have a problem with my lights not working,both front and back.I removed the battery to give it a freshen up charge as I hadn't used the old girl for a while.Upon refitting the battery the lights will not work ?
I've tried checking fuses all ok,bulb holders are ok,all wiring seems intact and in good condition,it would seem to be something simple I assume ?
Can any body help me by pointing me in the right direction as to what else to check please ?
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2022, 17:48:50 »

+ and - the right way round?? just asking'
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2022, 01:39:23 »

Another stay in Hospital, ulcerated Ankle became badly infected , I got MRSA and had to do a full course of 2 weeks on intravenous antibiotics,
 once the lab had found a culture to attack the infection rejecting antibiotics that is, so woopie I recently got my medical licence renewed, so am now keeping the Nexus.
 I have disconected the side stand cut out, the bike now starts on the button,with yet another new battery , however although thed panel lights up, there is no readout, or indicators nor the rear light. I have reinsured the bike as from Wednesday,so also want to get it sorted so I can get it re MOTd.
Maybe I am cluelesss over such things but I cannot seem to activate the system with the red key,
should it turn in the barrel with the main key ???

ps I have now taken the ol Viva to 3 events but am buying a Ford Cougar V6 Coupe, not everyone's cup of Tea but based on the Mondeos, two of which I had utterly reliable service from over 2 decades consequently .
I can also take the Cougar to retro events one of which stipulates cars pre 2001 (now) it was 2000 which the Ford Coop is!

The stock petrol pump still works fine Lyn, albeit the car stood for 7 months, on top of last winter when I needed to sort out the timing. A new old stock Dizzy and some fine tuning had her back on the road then but now I am starting the Viva via the new solonoid, so the Dynamo will soon be replaced by an alternator as  I need to thoroughly sort out the electrics on the 53 year old ol gal
 have been driving her on a bit of a wing and a prayer with a fully topped up spare battery !

Looking forward to being on 2 wheels again tho, so expert advice needed on the minor electric issues please!
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2022, 07:10:18 »

If you follow the live wire from the dipped headlights, it goes to the dip switch then to the top 7.5A fuse (No8) which is fed from one of the main relays at the back near the regulator. The wiring on an X9 is very dependent on the relays as some activate other circuits which use relays to piggy back to feed other circuits, so I would start by checking all the fuses under the seat and in the glovebox as these are easiest to access, then remove and clean the connectors on the relays at the back and also the plug in loom to the main starter relay next to the battery. Only remove these relays one at a time as they look identical but inwardly they are not so need to stay in their own sockets.
If that doesn't work then remove the front panel and check the relays in there and especially the yellow diode pack as this has a big effect on relay operation.
Whatever it is the problem can't be much as the bike starts and runs so the brake lights must be OK.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2022, 07:22:23 »

Gav, sounds like the connectors to the rear of the dash panels may need a clean. The back of the dash area is a mess of wiring on a Nexus so everything to check is in one place. A lot of circuits 'pass through' the dash.
The red master key should operate just like the normal key other than the immobiliser flash on switching on is slightly different. If yours won't turn in the ignition barrel I suspect it isn't the one that belongs the bike. The cut of the key should be the same. Did you not test it when you bought it?

On the Viva, is the dynamo regulator one of the two bobbin Lucas types? There is an easy way to convert to an alternator using the same wires as go to the dynamo now. You simply remove some of the thicker wires and join them together and add a loop between a couple of other terminals. I did it many years ago on my Morris Minor and it was dead easy. I'm sure a google search will find out the requirements.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2022, 10:04:50 »

No I didnt Dave, it was slightly rushed due to Covid, and  when I arrived at the Vendors house near Rochester Kent,we squeezed the Nexis into my iccle Kangoo/roo van,which was its last journey with a bike onboard- with the passenger seat down I actually drove it all the way to Inverness with my thumping great Great Cagiva Raptor 1000 aboard,(the one I had actually ridden to and from the NW 200 the previous week)to do the NC500,and then over to the IOM with a little 50cc Aprilia Tuono aboard -65 MPH down hill on the Mountain course, interesting playing tunes on the 6 speed box on the ascent.

Yep what I thought was a screech from the water pump turned out to be the old Dynamo, and as luck would have it a guy nearby had a brand new one he had found surplus to requirements, I got for £30.
However part of the problem with the Viva electrics, were down to the last time I had used it, circa late September 201,I found the top bolt on the starter motor loose, tightened it up but it must have gone scew wiff, and a new solonoid later -probably nothing wrong with the old press button type , but the bayonets are bigger, and some joins on the ignition wires were brittle and broke off, so its connected on a wing and a prayer currently-no pun intended, to the voltage regulator which with an alternator is redundant, thanks for the advices.
 

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2022, 17:34:34 »


 In response to to your earlier advice Dave, I'll give these suggestions a try and let you know thanks
Andy
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