x9 250 2005

[john 14.6]

Hi all    got my hands on a x9 250 2005 evolution, the idle is a bit funny sits about 1 3/4 -2 on the counter, carb  needs to be  run through the ultrasonic, 

im also looking to change the belt and anything else that needs swapping around there, i have been going through the site and it looks like you need a special tool for this?? if so what and where can i get one?

also is there a comprehensive guide to this, specific to my bike, a video or step by step guide?

who do you use for oem parts?
what oil you guys using ?

sorry for all the what seems silly questions i know nothing about scooters or 4 strokes, valve clearane etc, iv been riding and fixing  2 stroke mx and enduro bikes for years!

kind regards

[Mr.Chips]

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[poldark]

Here's one of the holding tool options, others with more knowledge may post alternatives. I also know some people invest in an impact gun instead but there is some potential to completely mangle things if you don't know what you're doing (like me!)

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAGGIO-X9-250-EVOLUTION-REAR-PULLEY-HOLDING-TOOL-/360718797711

[unchained]

Hi John,

The biggest requirement is a variator holding tool, you can get away with using two screwdrivers to hold the rear pulley.


It would appear that the 250 uses the same tools as the 125, I happen to have both holding tools somehwere from my old 125 days. If I can find them (I moved house last year) then I might part with them for a small fee! What is you location?


Bob

[john 14.6]

cheers for the info guys, i have an impact gun but i wouldnt feel comfortable tightening it back up with that,

re the tools, im very interested if you can dig them out, how much do you want for them? im just outside of farnham surrey

regards

John

[Dave Milnes]

OEM parts and of course pattern parts often show up on Ebay as most dealers sell on there too. Otherwise there are three suspects, Fowlers, Easyparts and Suttons (Piaggio Spares). Don't be concerned that Easyparts are in Holland, their delivery times can almost rival UK companies.
Stick with OEM belts and drivetrain parts though, they are best value when it comes to miles covered before replacement. Exhausts will be your biggest problem to source as manufacturers don't seem to get that there was 2 versions of the 250 (SL and Evo) and often put the wrong dates on their product fitments.

[john 14.6]

thanks guys, big help.

one my 2t bikes when i have finished riding i turn off fuel tap and run the bike till fuel bowl is empty so as not to let the carb gum up with old fuel

is there a way to do this on the x9?

regards

[Dave Milnes]

No, and no need to, the fuel system is electrically pumped and it senses the spark timing so as soon as you kill the spark you turn off the fuel. Gumming up isn't a problem with standard fuels with no added 2T oils. It can be if left for many months but even then soon washes through. A splash of redex once a year keeps it clean.

Even if you could, the carb float bowl would still hold fuel, just not a high enough a level to be drawn through the jets and a dried out float needle jet is more likely to give problems than one kept wet.

If you need to keep the bike off road for longer than a month, just fire it up for 5 minutes occasionally as it also keeps the battery topped up.

[john 14.6]

cheers dave, its booked in for an mot this wed so if all goes well ill rip the carb and do the belt and the two oil changes,

thanks again

[john 14.6]

Hi John,

The biggest requirement is a variator holding tool, you can get away with using two screwdrivers to hold the rear pulley.


It would appear that the 250 uses the same tools as the 125, I happen to have both holding tools somehwere from my old 125 days. If I can find them (I moved house last year) then I might part with them for a small fee! What is you location?


Bob

Hi Bob

any luck finding the above tools?

kind regards

[unchained]

Hi John,

They weren't where I thought they were but I have managed to dig them out

I will PM you.

Bob

[john 14.6]

x9 passed its mot this morn no problems, they said it was a very clean bike in good condition, just waiting for some bit in the post and i can give her a service, loving the x9, doing about 350 miles a week on it

cheers guys

[Gav]

 

[john 14.6]

I have been looking for a belt but dont really want to tell the mrs that i got to spend another £86 on a belt and 20 odd on some rollers,[ after all the bike was to save money so i dont have to lug around my big tranist 70 miles a day] anyhow i have seen this ,,,,        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dayco-Kevlar-Dimmer-300-250-Transmission/dp/B013G76VU6?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc08-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B013G76VU6

is this the right belt it seems the right price!  if so does anyone know the quality?

many thanks

[unchained]

You tend to get what you pay for with belts, the service intervals are based on genuine parts and are pretty reliable. As soon as you go for after market you don't have any idea how many miles they will do before giving out and leaving you in the middle of nowhere. Having had two belts go on me, one on the 125 and one on the 250sl, not only the hassle of waiting to be collected by the RAC but the mess they make in the transmission case is just not worth it.

I would probably go for this one:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAGGIO-X9-250-EVOLUTION-GENUINE-DRIVE-BELT/362161400799?epid=1962967586&hash=item5452806bdf:g:~HMAAMXQkl9RaZax

and save a few quid.

Bob

[john 14.6]

sounds like good practice,,  is the ebay one  the same as  if i ordered the £86 from fowlers?

thanks

[unchained]

Yes John you can see the Piaggio label on it.

Bob

[john 14.6]

you have better eyes sight than me! if you think thats oem ill go for it  £60 is better than £85

thanks

[Dave Milnes]

Generally OEM belts do not have packaging, just a white label wrapped around it. All other types come in some sort of bubble pack, box, or have fancy labelling, plus if the pic is any good you can often see the painted markings on the outside (not in this case though - crap pic).

If the bike is running well I'd leave the rollers for now and look for a set of DrPulley sliders and fit them at a later date. These last almost indefinitely as they don't wear flat spots like rollers. It isn't such a big job on a 250 to change such things.

When you fit the new belt, twist and open the rear pulley and embed the belt as deeply as you can so when you put the outer half of the variator on the crankshaft and tighten the centre nut you have enough slop in the belt so it isn't nipped in the pulley and all the tightening torque is correctly applied to the variator. Otherwise the centre nut works loose when the belt settles.

[john 14.6]

Hi Bob,,,

Just to let you know the tools arrived this morning, thank you very much,
you are very kind, i appreciate it very much
i ordered that belt you saw on ebay the £55 one should be here tuesday/wed

thanks again, your a gentleman

kind regards
John

[john 14.6]

@Dave,, thanks for the advise,
 if there are anymore nuggets of gold you can share or point me in the direction of,, would be most welcome

thanks

[Dave Milnes]

Check the rear hub oil, chances are it's OK, normal 80EP gear oil. Not sure if the 250 has a dipstick where the level is obvious on the stick or if it's a 'fill to the filler hole'.
Coolant is normal water/antifreeze mix and 50:50 gives more than adequate protection. Any modern antifreeze is OK that you would use in a car, red generally lasts 5 years, where blue is 2 years although this is a generalisation it holds true with most brands. Don't mix colours though as they are slightly incompatible and can get acidic.
Other than that I can't think of anything sensible. Try not to fall off!