lighting problems etc....Newbie :-)

[Paul123]

Hi,

Newbie here   so please don't laugh too loud at my questions ::

I have left an introduction to my myself and new to me scoot on the new members intro but it basically goes something like this...........

I put a very cheeky bid on the X9 500cc 2005 on ebay last week, the auction ended at 1:30 am so thought I was in with a chance of winning, and I did !! £350 for a non running 2005 8,000 mile X9, expected the worst with the codes etc and that i would have to do some chopping up of the electrical system to get it running again........not so, put new petrol in, new battery on,re-coded the key using the red one, topped oil up, pushed the button and it burst into life straight away (to my surprise).

The scoot has been stood outside in the elements all its life so the grey plastics are all sun bleached,the front tyre is cracked, the seat is weather cracked but all the running gear and frame etc looks to be rust free and in A1 condition.

She has a few problems I am hoping to clear up, a couple of them are obvious,common problems but there are a couple that are not commonly associated with the X9 evo.........

1. Centre stand.....the motor does not seem to be working and the stand feels quite stiff if you put the bike on it , fuses,limit switches etc I guess?

2. Lights...... Front and Rear lights are not working,dash light not working (brake lights and indicators work fine).....I have checked the 7.5 amp fuse and replaced it (it was blown) but still no lights? the lights switch on the left hand gear seems fine as the blue light on the dash illuminates when you select main beam etc.

3. Regulator....When the scoot is started everything is fine , but as soon as you throttle on, the check engine light comes on, she still runs sweet but the light comes on every time you throttle then goes off when rev's drop to tick over. I understand this is a common problem with the regulator and will check with multimeter, question is....what can I replace the original regulator with??
Could the regulator problem be causing the lights not to work????

Thanks for any tip's/solutions that may help.

This will probably make you smile........

After fitting the battery etc I could not start the scoot whatever I tried....much head scratching and internet searching later.......... I flicked the side stand up and put a brake on......started immediately, hahahaha, told my missi's it was a fuse 

[Paul123]

I have ordered a chinese made regulator from ebay, for the £28 it costs then it's definitely worth the punt if it works ok.
I am now guessing the reason the scoot had been left outside and unused/loved for the last 5 years was that the regulator probably gave up the ghost and burned out the relay boxes for the main lights and dash light (hidden behind front fairing??), hope so as that will be another very easy fix to get the lights working again after I fit the new regulator.

[ronoc88]

I now this is an old one but im just wondering if your chinese regulator did the job. i have a similar issue at the moment.

[Mike H]

Just a note, this type of thing has come up on the BSA Bantam forum (I'm now a member) fairly often, I remember there was a warning, the ally box is quite small, so needs to be bolted/screwed to a substantial piece of metal as a heatsink, the box is not a big enough heatsink on its own.

[ronoc88]

Thanks for the heads up Mike, ill ensure to provide a sufficient heat sink once it arrives. Must be on the slow boat....

[unchained]

Over the last 8 years of owning X9 500s I have on several occasions reverted to the ever so much cheaper Chinese regulators with varying results:

Those that work didn't last very long.
Some I tried barely kept the battery topped up sufficiently and led to short battery life
One didn't work at all
One I had to change the wires as they were the wrong lengths (and then it was faulty anyway)

Over two years ago I decided to stick to OEM ones and they have both been on the bikes ever since with no problems. Admittedly, I only paid £35 for one that was old stock from a bike shop!

I know some people have had good results with the cheaper ones but the extra lay out seems to be worth it in my view.

Bob

[Dave Milnes]

I think mine is from a Honda, I just searched Ebay for a reg with the three yellow wire input and 4 wire output, although the output wires are just parallel outputs so a two wire output also works. The Honda one I found had the same size blades in the plugs just different plastic moulding so I simply swapped them into the old Piaggio plug body and it's been fine ever since.

[bustupbiker]

If i need a reg/rec for anything these days my first port of call id Electrex world on the net..over the years they have done rewinds and all sorts of stuff for old machines as well as newer.
https://www.electrexworld.co.uk/
well worth a bookmark space.
Lyn.

[JrW]

I'm just finishing my second x9 500 rebuild and have learnt loads. First lesson all connectors and relays and switches need to be gone over and cleaned even to the point of removing the blades from the connectors and sapping with a dremmel. To say these parts are not suitable for UK weather is an understatement.
Centre stand electrics and switches are over complicated, just do the bypass which is dead easy to do and remove the two switches at the sides also cut the purple wire (power) to the alarm under the center fairing panel so the bypass fault wont power the bleeper . My center stand was stiff and sheared all 4 bolts trying to take it off to restore even after WD40 and heat and impact drivers. Again cheap bolts etc not suitable for UK.
If you take the time to find out how to open switch's and clean them up they work fine, there all snap together parts.

Hope some of this helps

[Peter T]

If you connect your grey and purple centre stand controller wires together via the left hand limit switch, you get a bypass which switches the hydraulics off when the bike is on its stand. You'll never over work the hydraulics by running the stand against its limit.

[Mike H]

Over the last 8 years of owning X9 500s I have on several occasions reverted to the ever so much cheaper Chinese regulators with varying results:

Those that work didn't last very long.
Some I tried barely kept the battery topped up sufficiently and led to short battery life
One didn't work at all
One I had to change the wires as they were the wrong lengths (and then it was faulty anyway)

Over two years ago I decided to stick to OEM ones and they have both been on the bikes ever since with no problems. Admittedly, I only paid £35 for one that was old stock from a bike shop!

I know some people have had good results with the cheaper ones but the extra lay out seems to be worth it in my view.

Bob

I've seen some on eBay that are stupidly cheap and I have to wonder what is inside.