Tax Disc

[lord]

Hi
Can you get a Tax Disc to put on your windscreen that is destroyed if somebody tries to nick it ?

Cheers

[joyce]

I have never heard of one.

Welcome to the forum, why don't you introduce yourself and let us know what you are riding (or hope to be riding).

[intermod]

Hi
Can you get a Tax Disc to put on your windscreen that is destroyed if somebody tries to nick it ?

Cheers

I've given up on displaying my tax disk. I buy the thing but am not prepared to drill holes in my mudguard just to mount the ugly artefact.
Essentially, the PNC can determine if the vehicle is paid up on VEL, it makes it stupid having to have some visible token presence which has an ever decreasing benefit to anyone who might like to steal your rent off you.

[Dave Milnes]

Why not colour photocopy the original and put the copy on your bike and carry the original in your wallet.
The quality of print on photo paper from modern inkjets is barely distinguishable from the original.

[Larry]

[lord]

Thats the one Larry thanks all.

[KimiK]

I'm in the 3rd year of using one of these Police endorsed "tamper proof" tax disk holders. They are also sold at Halfrods. They are rectangular in shape, and I've found that the arrangement looks best (in my eyes) if trimmed into a circular shape (larger than the tax disk itself for obvious reasons).

Warning:

This summer I discovered that there is actually a thin film laminated to the back of the X9 screen (the adjustable screen 'plate', that is). And this film was pulled off by the (very) sticky backing of the tamper proof tax disk holder when I removed the expired tax disk. Hence I had to be careful to place this year's tax disk in precisely the same location on the screen so that the ripped/removed laminate film isn't visible.

So you may find this happens to you too after a couple of years of using this tax disk holder.

k.

[Jay Gee]

I had my tax disc "borrowed" about three weeks before it ran out so when I got the new one
I laminated it in an A4 laminator and fastened it with clear tape behind the windscreen, low enough for the windscreen securing bolts to pierce the laminate. The disc now sits midway between the top two bolts on the windscreen
Now if they want it they will have tear it away but will not be able to tamper with it(as splitting the laminate will rip the surface of the disc)

rgds to all and thanks for your interesting inputs

JG

[Derek]

I've given up on displaying my tax disk. I buy the thing but am not prepared to drill holes in my mudguard just to mount the ugly artefact.
Essentially, the PNC can determine if the vehicle is paid up on VEL, it makes it stupid having to have some visible token presence which has an ever decreasing benefit to anyone who might like to steal your rent off you.

That's fine regarding law enforcement but try explaining it to traffic wardens.

BTW Intermod do you ever have anything positive to say?

[Mr.Chips]

I have the cheapo holder bent suitably to mount on the top windscreen bolt, left-hand side, close to and behind the screen.
It's dry there and not too easy to get at as far as unscrewing the front and removing the disc is concerned.
I don't want the statutory fine for not displaying a tax disc, thanks.

 

[Fatster]

Why not colour photocopy the original and put the copy on your bike and carry the original in your wallet

Because those who inspect it are trained to look at them and will fine you for displaying a fake disc which will run you into more trouble than not having a disc on the bike.

[Dave Milnes]

Who inspects them?
An original disc is barely legible after a few months in a holder on the nearside by the wheel where they legally ought to be displayed, but my copy lasts longer, can be replaced frequently and the details necessary for anyone with the authority to do a check remain clear to read.
It could be that in the major cities where contract parking wardens are used, they get a bit anal about such things, but in most counties a copy is accepted by the police, provided the original can be produced on demand along with your other documents.
After all how can you make a copy if you don't have an original? The offence of not displaying is a throwback to before a check could be made at the roadside when no disc usually meant no tax, or a forgery that looked authentic disguised an untaxed vehicle that couldn't be checked up on.

[intermod]

That's fine regarding law enforcement but try explaining it to traffic wardens.

Derek, traffic wardens don't even look at bikes because there is no revenue to be made from them. 

BTW Intermod do you ever have anything positive to say?

Sometimes, but it depends on the cycle of my bipolar disorder. Incidentally, what else is it that I have said that has ground your gears? I've got what I think is a very positive solution to the tax disk problem, buy it and bolt it under your seat.

[lord]

Hi

I have bought a Tamperproof one and attached it to the screen.

 

[Dave Milnes]

Beware of Kimik's warning about the screen coating though.

[Aaron]

I used a colour scan and printout on my bikes over the years, never had a problem. The last one even had printed on it, something along the lines of: "Duplicate - Original can be produced if demanded by proper authorities."

[Big Ears]

Bifesafe police at the Ace suggest doing just that. Technically illegal, but it would take a pedantic official to bring any charge.

[eric1789uk]

As an ex-cop I can only explain the law a little. It is an ofence to fail to display tax disc. However my ex-force and many others (all that I know of) do not prosecute for this offence. A simple pnc check on the streets will inform the cop if its taxed. Obviously some recently taxed vehicles may not show up then they take all details of vehicle location and owner and send them to dvlc for their information. Nowadays there is no "Grace" for renewal so these cases are rare. At the moment my tax disc is displayed only because its less than 1 yr old and tax is in plastic holder stuck to screen. When I renew it I'll stuff it under the seat as I normally do. for the last 5 yrs or so ther's not been a problem. If I'm stoped I can display it. Jut tell the cop thatyou've had them lost/stolen in the past and its a pain in the ar5e geting a renewal, as well as keeping the crime stats down.  PLEASE PLEASE do not think of photocopying it and putting the duplicte on display. the offences develop from motoring matters into serious crime and you could be arrested.

[joyce]

Thanks, Eric that seems a sensible thing to do.

Just a word of warning to those who have not taken their test - the examiner will want to see your tax disc ON YOUR BIKE.

[jimc]

The photocopy is OK (not a new offence) if it is marked as being a COPY.

[intermod]

Strictly speaking yes, but in under given background of tax fraud, displaying a replicated tax disk will lead to more scrutiny than displaying no disk at all.
Hopefully, we will soon look forward to not having to display these things at all in the future given ANPR and other logical methods.
Failure to display is technically an offence, but this would not be persued if a valid VEL was in existance.

[jimc]

If we want to be pedantic, the regulations say it should be visible from the kerb.  So stick the disc underneath the belly-pan on the RHS.  Get your eyeball down to kerb-level and it's visible.

And who cares if more scrutiny is used - if there's something up with my bike(s) I'd be very grateful to be told - what have you to hide?

I don't think we need go to those extremes, can we keep suggestions to a less 'precise' level, and use precision when needed, not just as a way of winding folk up?  Thanks.

[durbanite]

For you that want a site to get the Secur-i-Disc holder, here is a site to look at: -
http://www.secur-i-disc.co.uk/how_to_order.htm

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