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Noggin the Nog
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« on: February 27, 2020, 08:18:37 »

Hi

I've just been watching a news article on aircraft landing in strong cross winds. Wow!

The X10 may have it's shortcomings but it's brilliant in the wind, even strong crosswinds, and I get those regularly when crossing the bridges over the local flood plains.
Someone must have thought it through really well. When I first got mine, the offside transparent leg shield trim (the expensive one) was missing. I wasn't going to replace it, & even considered removing the other one. However, I noticed how crazily my keys swung about in the wind, even smacking me in the knee every now & then, so I ordered and fitted a replacement shield. The difference was immediate. The keys always just hang there now and the way the bike cuts through the wind is like the proverbial rocket sled on rails.

It's not so happy about really wet weather though. And we've had plenty of that.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2020, 09:54:15 »

The X9 is the same. I remember when the X9 first came out, one of the selling points was that it was wind tunnel developed and of course Piaggio make aircraft so are aerodynamic experts. The X10 probably followed the same design procedures.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2020, 14:27:07 »

  *** Piaggio make aircraft***

Ecky thump! i do hope they waterproof the relay's ::
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2020, 06:23:53 »

I think the standard screen is essential too. Mine came fitted with a tall Givi screen which caused a lot of buffeting (Rider height may be a factor, but not good for me at 5'9) Changing to standard was a great improvement for airflow and visibility, It's been mentioned before but the open section at base of screen allowing laminar flow must be a factor here too.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2020, 08:46:33 »

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Ecky thump! i do hope they waterproof the relay's ::::::

No they fly above the clouds so never get wet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KdP9FeTiA
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2020, 19:04:00 »

Thanks Dave, i will take a look at anything hairyplain.... ::
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2020, 20:01:54 »

I tried the Givi screen, the one with the "hand guards" sticking out the sides, on the X10 and it was murder. I still wonder if it contributed to me crashing the blue one. It was a stormy weekend with gales force gusts. Before all that, I was struggling to keep it on the road. Been camping down Upton-on-Severn way and couldn't use the motorways to come back home because it felt too dangerous at speed. I'd cut down the screen too, so I could see over the top, instead of thru, so not full height. To stop the 'bars hitting the "hand guards" the whole thing had to be tilted forwards so more upright, and quite further away from the rider. Don't buy one! When I got the white X10 I left the stock screen alone.






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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2020, 01:27:42 »

I have always fancied the X10 500 not sold in UK, lok very aerodynamic, i would buy one with tall screen handguards and the huge X10 box.

My X9 does moderate ok in wind head on, side blast are not the best but still stable.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2020, 17:38:06 »

The Shad box for X10 is quite heavy, I weighed it, think it was 6 kg, I was quite surprised, there is also a weight limit for the contents, can't remember what, well it's 6 kg before your start!    Very nice box tho. But I did have a lot of trouble with the flip-up lid release stroke carry handle, jamming in the closed position. Previous owner had tied a bit of ribbon through it so that you could pull it out. I thought I'd fixed it, removed gthe ribbon, no of course it jammed again later. Can't remember if I ever got to the bottom of it or not.




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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2020, 18:49:56 »

Mine has bar mounted handguards. They keep the wind off your hands but don't seem to upset the aerodynamics.

The box is big and very useful. I'd like to get another base plate that I could put on the Guzzi. I've also wondered about some kind of saddle bags as I always seem to be carrying lots of stuff on the X10

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2020, 12:06:44 »

I got those exact same handguards on the Ural!  They are useful, keep wind chill off and gloves don't get half as wet when it rains.


I did get a tunnel bag for the X10, quite useful and helped increased the carrying capacity, only prob is it's not step-thru anymore so you have to do the leg over thing. Which means you risk kicking the topbox and body panels!


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