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Dave Milnes
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« on: January 20, 2020, 14:27:48 »

I haven't used the X9 since before Christmas so started it up at the weekend and although the battery was a little low it fired up OK. The only thing was it had a weird misfire so every 10 seconds or so it missed a beat. It didn't stall and it revved fine then I barely touched the kill switch and the immobiliser LED came on and the misfire got worse. I flicked the switch off, then back on and it wouldn't start. Several flicks of the switch and it came back on and started with no misfire. Time to buy a new switch as this is already my spare having a similar fault with the original a few years ago.
One thing I noticed going onto the usual spares places, Easyparts, Fowlers. Suttons etc is the lack of parts still available for the X9. Ebay seems to have a loads of Italian and Greek dealers selling all new parts off at reasonable prices as if clearing out their stores. Maybe the X9 is reaching end of life as anything much more than renewable service items are becoming harder to find. Luckily somone not far from me is braking a low mileage accident damaged 500 Evo so I have snapped up a few bits.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 22:12:10 »

A friend of Solo's needs a stat for a 500sl and it would appear that they are no longer available. Not sure how easy a conversion to take the Evo one will be, I may have to find out one day.
Also, it would appear that AJ Suttons have ceased trading!

Bob
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 08:06:19 »

Try Aprillia delaers for the Atlantic, these are still available in the US but the water pump cover would need changing and maybe the hoses forward to the rad. The Evo has a steel one the SL is all rubber. It will be a drop the engine out to do it easily without taking your knuckles off so probably best done next time the water pump seals go.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2020, 09:07:25 »

My bits have arrived. I bought a pair of forks suposedly only 10,000 miles in as new condition and when unboxed apart from a bit of brake dust around the calliper mounts they are immaculate. They were sold as a pair of fork legs, but the box also contained the yoke with bearings, nuts etc and the wheel axle. Also like new. Definite bargain.
I also bought a coolant pipe, the steel one that runs under the footboard as my original was very corroded and several years ago I sanded it, painted it then bound it in a layer of gaffa tape to try to protect it and have been looking for a replacement for a while. The new one has a bit of crackled paint but is solid and with a rub down and a fresh coat of paint will be as good as new. I'll bung in a new rad I have had for a while as well.
I am also going to revisit my non standard rear shockers and make up some proper spacers for the top mountings rather than the bunch of penny washers I had to use as the eyes were not as wide as the OEM ones.
A new bearing in the transmission cover will hopefully cure the thrumming vibration that has developed over the last year or so and I have some new DrPulley sliders to go in along with a new belt which I might as well do while it's in bits. I want to improve the ride quality and cure rattles and vibrations as a main priority before the annual bash.
I will get the bike MOT'd first as it is then strip it down and do it over the Easter weekend as I will have the Sym on the road by then. I think riding the Sym when I got it highlighted a few issues with the X9 that I had not really noticed had deteriorated.
Roll on March when I will MOT and start using the Sym.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2020, 00:09:28 »

If X9 is getting harder to keep alive, it will be a nice classic Scooter- worth keeping one for prosperity
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2020, 08:44:36 »

It's the simple things that work against this. If you crack a headlamp lens then find replacements are non existant for example, you can't get an MOT.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2020, 14:02:04 »

Worth checking the diameter of the brass centre of the variator Dave, Mine was 30.27mm, max allowable is 30.12mm, which explains my bad vibrations at low speed.

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2020, 07:36:07 »

I was thinking of reverting back to the original 6 roller with lighter DrPulleys as that has not been used for more than about 10,000 miles as I swapped to an 8 roller way back. I liked the 6 roller with 24g sliders in the white/red X9. DrPulleys arrived yesterday, I just need the slider shoes now and that's everything.
I've booked the MOT for both bikes before Easter just need to sort out insurance for the Sym.
The vibes I have is at about 50-70mph when you can feel a throbbing that oscillates like a very sligh inbalance somewhere. I assumed rear wheel balance at first but then I changed wheels and it was exactly the same. I have never changed the transmission cover since new so that little bearing on the clutch shaft has done a lot of revs!
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2020, 10:37:48 »

Lets hope its that bearing and nothing internal in the hub, which I had on my 125 but not heard of on a 500.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2020, 10:59:09 »

Checked play in the drop gears and it's fine. Oil is OK in the hub and no leaks.
One other possibility is the bearing in the swing arm as I changed the arm to a strap type rather than 3 bolt and it's been worse since then, so maybe the bearing was on the way out or the previous owner had the spacers wrong. As the vibration is speed rather than rev related it may just be that. I bought 2 bearings for the tran case as they were cheap so if they are the same size I'll change both.
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