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Author Topic: ABS and ASR light coming on solid.  (Read 20726 times)
Noggin the Nog
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2019, 17:23:28 »

Woo Hoo!!. Picking it up on Saturday. All new calipers and an ABS unit, plus a fresh MOT.

From what they said today, they'll be glad to see the back of it as it's been bouncing between Burton & their "official" Piaggio branch in Leicester for weeks.

Despite that, they told me that I'll only be charged for four hours labour and also all the brake pad pins in the new calipers have been removed & refitted with a touch of grease, not superglue
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2019, 00:05:18 »

Thanks for the update. Sounds like a right PITA, glad it didn't happen to me!
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2019, 13:03:16 »

Lets hope it's cured for good. Interesting to see what they thought the fault was, callipers or ABS unit, or did they just throw parts at it until it seemed to go OK?
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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2019, 21:46:29 »

"ALL new calipers and an ABS unit", so you could be right! Only the M/C's and hoses are original 

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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2019, 15:21:30 »

Now I have the bike and the actual paperwork, not just whatever info I could glean during phone calls. ....

There are three new calipers and a new ABS sensor.

The calipers were replaced because they were either binding/not working correctly,  or because the pad pins were fubar. (partly due to me, I'm sure, I can't blame them for not spending hours trying to drill pins out, etc) .
And, of course, there are no kits to enable them to be rebuilt/refurbished anyway.

The ABS sensor, with only an intermittent fault, had them scratching their heads & they did consider a complete new ABS unit but were eventually able to determine that the sensor (859792) was the culprit.

Like I said before, the pad pins in the new calipers were all removed & then re-fitted with a dab of grease. This also made them sweat a bit (how long would those calipers have been sitting on the shelf?) so I think I was lucky to get away with four hours labour in total. All rounded off with a fresh MOT.
The ride home was really wet but fun. The brake levers now have much more "feel" in them than they did. Lighter too.

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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2019, 21:59:06 »

The calipers were replaced because they were either binding/not working correctly,  or because the pad pins were fubar. (partly due to me, I'm sure, I can't blame them for not spending hours trying to drill pins out, etc) .

Yep fair enough! Makes sense.


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The ABS sensor, with only an intermittent fault, had them scratching their heads & they did consider a complete new ABS unit but were eventually able to determine that the sensor (859792) was the culprit.

Again, makes sense. And the dash lights kept trying to say that was the problem.

The lever going hard and the corresponding brake not working was due to seized pistons then. I'm surmizing.



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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2020, 19:10:38 »

Footnote to the above sagas.

Today I decided to do a bit of brake maintenance & all the pins came out exactly as they should.

Hopefully, here endeth the tail.

I could tell you about the " leather" bags I've put on the scoot and the furore it's caused with both scooterists and bikers but it can wait 
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2020, 19:05:02 »

Hmmm!

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