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Author Topic: Rear shock absorbers 2002 X9 500SL  (Read 191 times)
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« on: January 06, 2019, 23:24:14 »

Hi all, wishing you all a wonderful 2019.
I am asking once again for your help.
My X9 has soft rear suspension ( knackered) and I am trying to replace it.
I have looked at previous posts on the forum and found several suggested companies. The posts are typically quite old now so some of the links are no longer valid. I have been in touch with some of the companies mentioned but they all say that theirs do not fit. I am wondering if it is their way of avoiding any repercussions as if they say that their ‘universal’ unit fits and something went wrong then they can not be sued.
If any one has any suggestions for pattern shocks I would be very grateful. I rebuilt the front forks in the summer and completely rebuilt the engine several years ago when the oil pump failed so I’m very capable of a little fettling if needed.
Thanks in anticipation.
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Rich Bell
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 08:05:19 »

If you measure the eye to eye centre distance of the extended shocker, I think it is something like 14 3/4" or about 375mm.
If you google or Ebay for motorcycle rear shocks you will probably find none of that length but a few longer up to 400mm or some 15-25mm shorter. I have used 350mm without problems and also have some 395mm ones which fit OK but have a couple of problems. The centre stand doesn't lift the rear tyre off the ground so when starting up it's too easy to shoot forward off the stand if you rev the motor. It also lifts the seat height.
The slightly shorter ones don't have this issue but the reverse, in that the rear wheel is lifted further and the stand has to work harder to get the bike up. The side stand is also a bit long if you lower the bike too much. Otherwise the ride and looks are fine.
The biggest issue with just about all shockers is the width of the eyes and bushes. They are all narrower so you have to add spacers which is a faff, plus the quality of the bushings in cheap shockers is quite poor. Bolt diameters tend to be incorrect too but this is not insurmountable.
You could re-bush them and make spacers to suit the OEM bolts and brackets and go for the longest you can find that come close to the stock length, some are not overly expensive so probably worth a go.
I did spot some air pressure ones which were almost correct but had external canisters which I doubt would have enough clearance. You can't fit them upside down or they get hydraulic locked.
The X9 is quite light in relation to sprung weight, plus rider, but the unsprung weight is high compared to a geared motorcycle so motorcycle shockers are not ideal but they do the job.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 10:01:58 »

Ask Hagon, they should be able to make a custom pair for a reasonable price.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 12:06:03 »

They can but for more money than an X9 is worth probably. Get the rear too good and it will expose the front inadequacies again though.
There used to be a company that sold replacement springs and oil for the front but I can't remember their name ATM. They probably gave up on the X9 years ago though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 20:54:59 »

Thanks for your help again and you are correct about the value of the bike verses cost of replacement parts. Mine is ok but I wouldn’t want to send a lot on it as it’s worth very little. I need to replace the seat as well as the shocks and with all the trouble I have had I’m not prepared to spend huge amounts hence the reason why I am looking for pattern parts.
I will take one off and measure it, there is also a really good company near me that does rebuilds so I might give them a call but more than likely just go for a universal motorcycle one.
Thanks again Dave for all your help over the years I’ve had the bike.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 11:42:40 »

I bought oem ones on my 500 and they were not that expensive from piaggio. I’m sure I paid less but in Fowler’s they are £77.82 each

If you are not too worried about how good they are someone is selling a universal shock for £36 each on eBay from Germany on eBay!!
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