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Noggin the Nog
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« on: November 09, 2017, 08:31:45 »

Just carried out the second service on my (new to me) X10 so I've had it a year! Do I get a badge?


Still got both the front calipers brake pad bolts to sort. Well seized. I have a motorcycle mechanic who's good at this sort of thing so may go to him. Is all the brake bleeding done from the calipers or do we need access to the splitter for the linked brakes?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 10:06:28 »

I had a mare doing my linked brakes on MP3 includes a foot brake so in all 3 linked levers a whole bottle of fluid and 2 nights of zip tied levers and lots of swearing  😤 I'm sure you bleed fronts then the back then the fronts again no doubt mr milnes will be along shortly to settle it
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 15:11:52 »

On the linked system you have to go round a few times until one gets a firmish lever then finish off the other. The normal front is not a problem. They seem to improve with use after a few miles too. Even with a vacuum bleeder they can take a while.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 19:59:44 »

Thanks.
I've not written off the idea of getting two new calipers for the front but now Fowlers have them both in stock they're over £160 each!

Wonder if they're really that specific to just the X's?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 08:22:04 »

I would doubt it. Look up the pads and see what other bikes use the same pads, IIRC a lot of Ducatti's and some Aprillias use them too. The fixed part of the calliper with the pin may be unique but the main part with the pistons could be a universal item. The biggest problem is finding a type that is handed for use on both sides. Usually though it's just a case of swapping the input banjo and the bleed nipple and turn it upside down.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 19:54:13 »

I've not written off the idea of getting two new calipers for the front but now Fowlers have them both in stock they're over £160 each!

'Spect they are. Don't get much for 100+ quid these days.


Bleeding procedure is in the service manual.

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Rear - combined
- Remove the rubber cap from the bleed screw.
- Insert a rubber pipe in the bleed screw to permit the brake fluid to be recovered.
- With the brake lever, load the system and bring it up to the required pressure.
- Keeping the brake lever pulled, loosen the bleed screw to purge the air in the system. Then tighten the bleed screw.
- Repeat the operation until only brake fluid comes out of the rubber pipe.
- Remove the fluid recovery pipe and refit the rubber cap over the bleed screw.
- Top up the brake fluid to the right level in the reservoir.
If necessary, bleeding can be done using a special vacuum pump

Front
- Remove the rubber cap from the bleed screw.
- Insert a rubber pipe in the bleed screw to permit the brake fluid to be recovered.
- With the brake lever, load the system and bring it up to the required pressure.
- Keeping the brake lever pulled, loosen the bleed screw to purge the air in the system. Then tighten the bleed screw.
- Repeat the operation until only brake fluid comes out of the rubber pipe.
- Remove the fluid recovery pipe and refit the rubber cap over the bleed screw.
- Top up the brake fluid to the right level in the reservoir.
If necessary, bleeding can be done using a special vacuum pump


If you are only renewing the fluid, there shouldn't be any air in it so should be simple. However need to prevent air getting in, so bleed tube needs to be routed up, higher than the caliper. Cover up all paintwork!

Mity-Vac is mentioned as a special tool.




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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 11:23:44 »

Thank you.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 11:52:06 »

I personally not tried it yet mind you. But as described there, is how I would normally do it.
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