X9 Project

[onurx9]

Hi there. Greetings from Turkey 

Today I start a new project. I called that "Custom X9".  :: I will share the new modifications of my x9 250 Evolution with you. My English is not good so sorry about this problem  You can ask anything you want about the modifications.



This is my standard x9





Let's start the first modification. Carbon Fiber 











This is my friend Sebo. And those are the parts that going to be carbon fiber. Let's gooo 





First we emery the top case part.



Puting the carbon fiber and extent the size of the part.





Make ready the magic mixture 

















We must do vacuum system for dial cover. Because of the flection.











And the final view of my mirrors, dial cover and top case cover. I realy like them



The current photograph is there... I produced the new black wind mirror for my project.

Last week I buy a xenon system and a variator. It is J costa variator with 12 roller. And I will buy Polini clutch, Malossi oil filter, Malossi air filter, Malossi kevlar belt. And also I will do some exterior modifications.

Do you suggest anything else?

Greetings from Onur / Turkey-Istanbul

[Huskyteer]

I love the carbon-fibre look! Goes very well with the black, too.

[Nunwin]

Yeh man, excellent job and what a lot of hard work you have put into it, groovey.

[gravyonmychin]

Very nice, impressive job by your mate.

[ShaunA]

Very impressive - well done it looks great

[johnp]

I love the carbon fibre, well done.

[X9-125-Evo]

In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?

[onurx9]

Thanks to everybody for the wonderful messages.

In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?

Hi.

In Turkey, there is a place that can be product the same wind screen of X9. It's not a window tint. It's a new pleksiglas product. You can choose two colour. Black and the yellow. The black not so black. It's mixture with brown and black. I asked but they can't product another colours.

[spannerman]

'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
Well done, you must like it.

[X9-125-Evo]

you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested

[onurx9]

you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested

Hi. I think the company authorized can't speak english. Because the company is not institutional. If you want to buy the black screen. I can help you.

[x9 rider]

your x9 looks superb........keep up the good work bro.... long live x9'ers........

[onurx9]

Here are the new items I will do the installation after the other parts come to me.   


Malossi Air Filter:


Malossi Kevlar Belt:


Malossi Oil Filter:


Polini Clutch:







NGK Spark Plug Cover And Cable:


NGK Iridium Spark Plug:

[onurx9]

The J Costa variator system is reached today. It has 12 roller. Each roller has 15 gr weight. So my top speed must be better. The first acceleration will be faster by Malossi belt, NGK spar plug and Polini clutch.



Now I only wait for my USA orders. 

Here is the technical details for this variator.

http://jcosta.uinfor.com/images/zoom/variadores/piaggio_250ie_evo_2.pdf

J Costa is the new and the best variator. We test the two variator system. Same scooters (2 X Gilera Runner VXR 200) use J Costa and Malossi variator. J Costa has better acceleration and top speed then other.

[jimc]

J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco.

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard.

[onurx9]

J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco.

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard.

In Turkey the original Piaggio parts are very expensive. For example my X9 250 Evolution clutch is about 260 Euro. But I buy my Polini clutch 57 Euro. The mirrors are about 240 Euro. We don't want to buy original parts in Turkey because of ridiculous price. So I think Malossi is cheap for me as J Costa But J Costa is more powerfull then the other.

Also scooters are expensive as the parts. Gilera GP 800 is about 11.700 Euro. Suzuki Burgman AN650 is about 13.500 Euro. So you can't see any GP 800 in Turkey. But Burgman 650 is very popular. The price are over priced because of the taxes.

[onurx9]

Here are the new photographs.







This photo is for understanding the size of variator



And this is the new part of my scooter. I see this part on internet. It's for signal but I don't use it for signal. I will use with the strob lamp.



You can see it on X9



And this is the engine oil for my bike



Authorized services use 5W-40 oil but I buy Castrol 10W-50.

[onurx9]

I want to do everything professional. So I think that I must measure the standart specification of my X9 250.
We measure the 0-100 km/s and 50-100 km/s acceleration. I will measure the new specificatin after the installation.

We get result by the Drift Box device. It can show the 0-100 acceleration, 50-100 acceleration, 100-200 acceleration, horse power, tork power, circiut time vs. But we can't see the horse power and etc, because of the automatic transmission. The device is working by the GPS. There are many sensors int the device. The automobile manufacturers like Audi, BMW, VW always use this equipment.

Lets start to measure...











First of all I want to say that Piaggio's indicator is working wrong. When I see the 100 km/s in the Drift Box device, the orijinal indicator show me 120km/s at the same time. So it has a wrong show about 20 km/s

Here is the DBN:



The acceleration is very proportional but its very slow. My 0-100 km/s acceleration is 17.49 sec. My 50-100 kms acceleration is 12.99 sec.

Here is the seconds.

10 km/s speed 0.71 sec
20 km/s speed 1.47 sec
30 km/s speed 2.37 sec
40 km/s speed 3.32 sec
50 km/s speed 4.44 sec
60 km/s speed 5.96 sec
70 km/s speed 7.83 sec
80 km/s speed 10.9 sec
90 km/s speed 13.12 sec
100 km/s speed 17.49 sec

We can see that speed drops after 70 km/s.  So my bike will be faster between the 70 km/s and 100 km/s after the installation the J Costa Variator. The rollers are 15.25 gram. I measure the rollers too



The red line is show us the acceleration. The line which is start at the top and going to down is show us the road slopes. The line which is doing traverse show us the G force.



And this DBN show us the curve of the road.

I will measure the specification after the installation.

[gravyonmychin]

I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.

[onurx9]

I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.

The drift box device show us the 80 km/s speed is 10.9 sec. When I see the 100 km/s on the analog indicator of my bike, gps show me the 80 km/s. If you take a video of your bike running 0-100 you can see that your 0-100 acceleration is about 10.5 or 11 sec. I said that our indicator has wrong shown. So we imagine that our bike's 0-100 is about 10 sec but it doesn't.

I don't know anything about 500cc. You can see that after the 70 km/s speed 80,90,100km/s are come to bad end. But I don't think that 500 cc does that. Becase it has more power then 250cc. But I want to add a note. When I install the modification parts I will race with a 500cc

You can see the video on youtube. 400CC Honda Silverwing (with J costa variator) vs 600CC Honda Silverwing has a rolling race. And the winner is 400cc SW

[X9-125-Evo]

nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH   

Like the X9 night shots too

[kitf]

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Don't forget that the majority of the world uses the metric system it's only really the UK and US who sill use Miles... and the x9's speedo has kph as the predominant value on there too.  it's quick enough to convert roughly, just divide by 8 and multiply by 5 (or just got for 2 thirds for a very approximate conversion).

Onurx9, Loving the detailed you've provided for your mod's   The carbon looks particularly good, and the level of detail of all of your work so far is superb!

[Dave Milnes]

The 100km mark is pretty much the old imperial 60mph that we traditionally use for acceleration measuring, so an easy conversion. It's actually 62mph but what's 2mph? Less than the variable you will get on repeated tests.

[onurx9]

nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH  

Like the X9 night shots too

Sorry about this problem I forget to convert the kmh to mph.

Here is the mph datas:

6 mph speed 0.71 sec
12 mph speed 1.47 sec
19 mph speed 2.37 sec
25 mph speed 3.32 sec
31 mph speed 4.44 sec
37 mph speed 5.96 sec
43.5 mph speed 7.83 sec
50 mph speed 10.9 sec
56 mph speed 13.12 sec
62 mph speed 17.49 sec

So my 0-62 mph acceleration is 17.49 second. My 31-62 mph is 12.99 second.

kitf thank you. Glad you like it

Dave Milnes hi. I measure this result after a busy travel. My X9 made intenseness. The clutch made warm up too. I believe that I can do less time. I will measure the new results after the installation.

[X9-125-Evo]

62 mph speed 17.49 sec    wow that seams Slow. thanks for the conversion for Us UK owners.

[onurx9]

62 mph speed 17.49 sec    wow that seams Slow. thanks for the conversion for Us UK owners.

Yes but when I see the 62 mph on my original indicator, GPS show me 50 mph. So we can understand that the original indicator has a wrong show. Its show us 12.43 mph much more.

[jimc]

All x9 speedos over-estimate the speed, most massively so.  Only the 500SL speedo was within 5% - the rest are easily 10% out at some speeds.

[X9-125-Evo]

I think the best speed-O i seen is the digital ones like the bugmans 650, iv been told they read good.

[jimc]

They don't.  They are also optimistic.  They are also awful to read 'at a glance' subconsciously so the 650 owners tell me.

[Big Ears]

Agreed Jim!

Nice big numbers, easy to see ... but numbers! You actually have to "read" them - not just glance.

They are 10% "over" right across the range. The error can be fixed with a *Speedo Healer (Google), but that makes the mileometer misread.


*A little device that fits between the sender and the dash, which re-times the pulses. Price circa £80!! 

[onurx9]

Here is the new items.

The cleaning kit:





I think Meguiar's NXT 2.0 Wax is the best wax ever. I'll take the application photos

This is the Licence plate cover But if you come to Turkey, you can drive friends 



The stickers





Pure Water for my radiator.



Bonus:  :: ::



Hope you enjoy friends.

[onurx9]

And this is the weight of my J Costa variator's roller.





When I put 1 roller it show 15.2 grams. When I put 2 roller it show me 30.5 grams. So I roller has a weight of 15.25 grams.

[evon610c]

Excellent job onur congrat,

We are waiting for your bike's new performance after your parts have been put inside 

[onurx9]

Here is the new battery.





New and old battery 




New battery is 12 volt and 14 ah. The old battery was 12 volt and 12 ah. I used 14 ah because I will change the headlight with the xenon kit. 

[mrcina]

nice i have doing that on my x9.
i put xenon H7 on low beam and 14ah battery

[onurx9]

Hi friends. I put in J Costa variator last weekend. It's magnificent, fantastic and make my bike faster. Here are the loading photographs.








First we take the clutch. If you throw back the clutch it's easily dislocate.









That's the original variator and the J Costa variator. The left one which is original has 6 roller. J costa has 12 roller and they product the new technology.



The differance of two roller















J Costa has loaded. Lets try it with a Gilera Runner VXR 200 which has full loaded Malossi equipment

My friend drive my bike and I record the video. He drive because he is light weight then me.

First video: Piaggio X9 with J Costa variator vs Full Malossi loaded Gilera Runner VXR 200

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Piaggio-X9-250-Evolution_701689.htm

Second video: Stock Aprilia Sportcity 250 vs Full Malossi loaded Gilera Runner VXR 200 (Let's see the third bike )

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Aprilia-Sportcity-vs_701824.htm

[jdb_freeheel]

Looks great. Thanks for the pictures.

My local shop, while trying to figure out a fluctuating tachometer (no engine revs when this happens), is going to install the J Costa variator on my X9 500 evo. It currently has the old, original 6 weight variator. I'm hoping that performance will increase, as well as perhaps less noise (barking seal) from the belt.

[X9-125-Evo]

Well i have to say, Good Bike and Good Pictures there and a grate Video. To good to see  People keeping the X9 range alive.

Good work i say.

[onurx9]

Looks great. Thanks for the pictures.

My local shop, while trying to figure out a fluctuating tachometer (no engine revs when this happens), is going to install the J Costa variator on my X9 500 evo. It currently has the old, original 6 weight variator. I'm hoping that performance will increase, as well as perhaps less noise (barking seal) from the belt.

Hi. Thank you for your message. I heared that when you put in J costa to your 500cc scooter you can have 8 wheel horse power. And also it will have less noise. But I want to say that when I put in the J Costa it's sounds very very interesting. When the rpm goes to 8000 and I leave the gas rev going down and I heared a sound like a plane. Yes like a plane
I will take a video for this. Keep watching

[onurx9]

Well i have to say, Good Bike and Good Pictures there and a grate Video. To good to see  People keeping the X9 range alive.

Good work i say.

Hi Thank you for your message. I will put in the other items next week and will take new videos. I want to say that every X9 owner should experience this pleasure. Thank you friends.

[onurx9]

Stock Piaggio X9 250 Evolution 0-100 acceleration.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Stock-Piaggio-X9-250-0100_702582.htm

Piaggio X9 250 Evolution 0-100 acceleration with J Costa.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Piaggio-X9-250-0100-with_702581.htm

And this is the new sound after the J Costa variator...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J-Costa-Variator-sound_702584.htm

[jdb_freeheel]

Interesting "plane" sound. I get my 500 back from the shop today so I'll be curious to see if my new J Costa sounds similar.

My mechanic called me yesterday and told me that the difference between the stock 6 weight variator and the J Costa variator is amazing. This was the first mod of this type they'd done. He took my 500 for a test ride yesterday afternoon and said it felt like a rocketship/motorbike from 25mph and up. He said he didn't notice much difference between 0-25.

I'm excited to see it for myself.

[onurx9]

Interesting "plane" sound. I get my 500 back from the shop today so I'll be curious to see if my new J Costa sounds similar.

My mechanic called me yesterday and told me that the difference between the stock 6 weight variator and the J Costa variator is amazing. This was the first mod of this type they'd done. He took my 500 for a test ride yesterday afternoon and said it felt like a rocketship/motorbike from 25mph and up. He said he didn't notice much difference between 0-25.

I'm excited to see it for myself.

I think if you buy Malossi kevlar belt and Polini clutch you can fell the difference between 0-25

[jimc]

Forget the "Malossi Kevlar Belt" - the Piaggio one *is* Kevlar, they just don't make a song and dance about it.  It's also cheaper...

[jdb_freeheel]

Got my 500 back today. The J Costa variator is soooo much better. I still use stock belts and stock clutch, but I am very pleased with the performance. It rides significantly smoother, the barking seal is minimized (not gone but mostly forgotten), and the pick up and really peppy  around 3000rpm and above.  I'm very happy with this mod.

-Josh

[onurx9]

Forget the "Malossi Kevlar Belt" - the Piaggio one *is* Kevlar, they just don't make a song and dance about it.  It's also cheaper...

We will use the belt with Nexus 500 which has use the same engine with X9 500. And I will tell you the changes

I think the original belt is warming when you drive higher rpm. I read from a web site that Malossi kevlar belt is durable then original.

[onurx9]

Got my 500 back today. The J Costa variator is soooo much better. I still use stock belts and stock clutch, but I am very pleased with the performance. It rides significantly smoother, the barking seal is minimized (not gone but mostly forgotten), and the pick up and really peppy  around 3000rpm and above.  I'm very happy with this mod.

-Josh

So we can say that "Thank you J Costa" 

[jimc]

I think the original belt is warming when you drive higher rpm. I read from a web site that Malossi kevlar belt is durable then original.

Don't believe everything on the Internet!  Malossi belts tend to shred with little notice, and rarely if ever last longer than the minimum expected from an OEM belt.

However, I expect they might be cheaper where you are then the originals - in which case they may make sense even if they have to be changed more often.

[DaveW]

I don't think I have read a more complete report on a project.
thanks for posting.

[onurx9]

Hi friends. Last weekend I finish the performance upgrade. Here are the photographs.



Here you can see the differance of Malossi filter and the original filter.







Later I putted the Malossi kevlar belt. The right one in the photo is Malossi belt.







And then me and my friends do the next operation. Thanks to my friends Sinan and Arda for the help.
The next operation is for malet. We tell malet but I don't know how to say in English The item is brake lever.





I stand at the right side





First I emery the brake lever.










Here is the result. 

[onurx9]

Hi friends. Last weekend I finish the performance upgrade. Here are the photographs.



Here you can see the differance of Malossi filter and the original filter.







Later I putted the Malossi kevlar belt. The right one in the photo is Malossi belt.







And then me and my friends do the next operation. Thanks to my friends Sinan and Arda for the help.
The next operation is for malet. We tell malet but I don't know how to say in English The item is brake lever.





I stand at the right side





First I emery the brake lever.










Here is the result. 

[onurx9]

I had a gasket problem. The oil infect to the variator, clutch and the belt. We clean all of them and put in new gasket. The problem is solve.











Then we put in the Polini clutch.











After clutch, we put in the Malossi oil filter and Castrol 10W-50 oil. But I want to say that do not use 10W-50 oil. When I put in, bike has a comfortable acceleration. But the rpm was limited in 7000 rpm. So I change the oil with 5W-40. And now it works very well. And up to 9500 rpm.





The last part is for the spark plug.









Hope you like  

[johnH]

onurx9, I believe you could get a job here just taking care of the forum's bikes.  
How many X9s are outside your workroom?

[onurx9]

onurx9, I believe you could get a job here just taking care of the forum's bikes. 
How many X9s are outside your workroom?

Hi johnH.
This place is the authorized service of Piaggio. But the owner of the service is realy close acquaintance. We have a scooter site in Turkey. I suggest this service all of our forum's bike. One thay if you come to Turkey/Istanbul, you can prefer this service.

I will do new additionals. Like new Leo Vince 4 road exhaust and Malossi tork driver. I will send new photographs when I buy them. Thank you for your all support messages.

I think it will be the fastest X9 250 Evolution in the world

[X9-125-Evo]

Nice work ......    Given me soem tips too for my Piaggio X9 125 Evo

[x9 rider]

well done.....marvellous......

[onurx9]

Here are my new tyre valve caps.

[X9-125-Evo]

you done the  xenon system yet ? lights ? HID

[onurx9]

Not yet friend. I will put in the xenon kit, oem signal and strobe light on friday night

[onurx9]

Hi friends. My project has come close to the end. I'm waiting for the Arrow Reflex exhaust.

I didn't import photos for a long time. This is the current look of my x9.

First of all I change my service. The new service's name is Kadıköy Motor. Kadikoy is a town in istanbul. And the perfect master's name is Kadir Özen. I think he is the best Piaggio master in Turkey. Thank you Kadıköy Motor and thank you Kadir Özen.

In this process, first as the sorry I've painted wheels, front dampers and the bakelite. Bakelite painted the orijinal colour of my x9. Wheels and the front dampers are the same colour. It's matte grey colour. I select this colour from the Vespa Colour catalog.
Then I paint the inside of the headlight, rear lights and front mirror signals... After them I paint the variator cover and the swing behinde the exhaust to matte black. I change the spark plug to orijinal. Because the iridium spark plug make me burn more fuel.

Here are the last photos of my Bike.

BEFORE:





















AFTER:

[jimc]

Nice.   Well done.

[johnp]

That is very nice.

[Derek]

Super looking bike. 

[johnH]

Wow !!!  A really wonderful looking bike.  Some of the photographs could be from a motorbike magazine.

[onurx9]

Wow !!!  A really wonderful looking bike.  Some of the photographs could be from a motorbike magazine.

I'm working for a tuning magazine in Turkey. I take photographs and writing some articles

Thank you for your messages friends. 

[nolezmaj]

Great project and great looking bike! Really nice photos also - your Canon works really good 

Perhaps you would not mind friendly suggestion - using largest aperture size (i.e. f/2.8 or smaller if possible) and adequate short exposition on some of your photos will give you that no-depth-of-field (only focused field is sharp, the rest is blurry) style that enhances details perfectly (just like in your last photo).

Keep up the good work 

[amiga-mark]

WOW.

Amazing detail and brilliant project.

I wish I had the time, tools, money, availability of parts and the confidence.  I did a very similar job with my two stroke 125 Typhoon, rebuilt engine, carb, variator, exhaust system, resprayed everything, new lights wheels tyres etc, and this was very exciting and satisfying. But your project is another level.

Excellent.

[x9cipro]

You must be very proud of your work well done pal

I have trouble getting the plastic panells off let alown doing machanicy stuff

[mrcina]

Is it original ignition coil? Have you replaced him? My ignition coil is supplied with wire. with you in the topic, the ignition coil and wires give the disconnect, as the yen is possible

[onurx9]

Hi mrcina.

It's NGK product which is for X9 250 Evolution. I take the orijinal and install the NGK. It sold with the cable and the spark plug cap.

[mrcina]

ignition coil is a product of NGK ??  what you originally took to install an NGK.

I searched the whole net and not found.

where you found the ignition coil and how much you paid for it.

from the theme and the picture is not visible much, so I asked you if we can clarify some things, but in detail, what you bought together and which separately.

[onurx9]

ignition coil is a product of NGK ??  what you originally took to install an NGK.

I searched the whole net and not found.

where you found the ignition coil and how much you paid for it.

from the theme and the picture is not visible much, so I asked you if we can clarify some things, but in detail, what you bought together and which separately.

Sorry I write to first page that my English is not so good. I want to ask a question if I understand wrong.

Are you talking about this product? If it is true I bought it about 22 Euro in Turkey.

[onurx9]

Hi friends. Finaly my exhaust come. Its the Reflex model of Arrow. Sound is good and looking so cute. Exhaust headers looking so beautiful. 













Here our new Vuvuzela



The Silencer



Final image

[onurx9]

Next week I will upload the new brake discs photo

[mrcina]

   this its ignition coil.


what you are doing that you conect this with this

[onurx9]

Ok I understand now. This part is orijinal for my bike.

[mrcina]

ok but you have not answered to my question



how did you connect the yellow wire with ignition coil

[onurx9]

I take off the original wire and push the yellow. Thats all

[mrcina]

ok

[onurx9]

Hi friends. The project continues with the brake disc.

The new discs are EBC brand. Can I have your comments?

[alphacrust]

Hmmm, undecided on those...  They look a bit too much like a flower to me.

[X9-125-Evo]

any more work ?

[Solo]

What happened to this guy ?

[joyce]

The thread is nearly 3yrs old, he is marked as guest so no idea when he was last on the forum.

[Solo]

guest- must mean he deleted his profile and left ?

[Big Ears]

Correct.

[Solo]

He did some good write up and pictures were good!

[sinky]

WOW Never seen that before. Very nice!

[Col the Brummy]

My 2001, 250 x9 does 0-60 in about 17 seconds also. This is crap. My 30 year old honda c90 does it in 12.5 seconds with no mods and 50,000+ on the clock.  The book says the 250 should do 0-60 mph in 10.5 seconds. Everything else about the x9 is good but acceleration is laughable, I will follow onurx9's progress with interest

[Col the Brummy]

Oops, sorry. I put that last post up before I realised the original stuff was from 2010. I need to pay more attention. My teachers were right all along

[Mottza]

I don't think the 250 could do 0-60 in 10.5 secs.

Maybe 15 secs.

[Dave Milnes]

The 250 Evo might.

[Col the Brummy]

My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means fitting a nitrous oxide kit to it

[Col the Brummy]

My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means putting the c90 cub engine in it

[poldark]

My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means fitting a nitrous oxide kit to it

Without getting personal how much do you weigh, as it'd be easier for you to lose two stones and improve power/weight than trying to get the bike lighter/faster!   

[Col the Brummy]

Yes you are quite right about power to weight. But wrong about it being easy for me to lose weight..I am a custard cream addict

[Solo]

5 years later i still think this bike is a good one......