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onurx9
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« on: July 15, 2009, 13:35:27 »

Hi there. Greetings from Turkey 

Today I start a new project. I called that "Custom X9".  :: I will share the new modifications of my x9 250 Evolution with you. My English is not good so sorry about this problem  You can ask anything you want about the modifications.



This is my standard x9





Let's start the first modification. Carbon Fiber 











This is my friend Sebo. And those are the parts that going to be carbon fiber. Let's gooo 





First we emery the top case part.



Puting the carbon fiber and extent the size of the part.





Make ready the magic mixture 

















We must do vacuum system for dial cover. Because of the flection.











And the final view of my mirrors, dial cover and top case cover. I realy like them



The current photograph is there... I produced the new black wind mirror for my project.

Last week I buy a xenon system and a variator. It is J costa variator with 12 roller. And I will buy Polini clutch, Malossi oil filter, Malossi air filter, Malossi kevlar belt. And also I will do some exterior modifications.

Do you suggest anything else?

Greetings from Onur / Turkey-Istanbul
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 13:39:31 »

I love the carbon-fibre look! Goes very well with the black, too.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 14:11:47 »

Yeh man, excellent job and what a lot of hard work you have put into it, groovey.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 14:51:26 »

Very nice, impressive job by your mate.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 15:07:39 »

Very impressive - well done it looks great
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 16:15:25 »

I love the carbon fibre, well done.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 21:31:37 »

In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 19:27:54 »

Thanks to everybody for the wonderful messages.

In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?

Hi.

In Turkey, there is a place that can be product the same wind screen of X9. It's not a window tint. It's a new pleksiglas product. You can choose two colour. Black and the yellow. The black not so black. It's mixture with brown and black. I asked but they can't product another colours.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 19:44:46 »

'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
Well done, you must like it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 21:16:31 »

you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 08:02:46 »

you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested

Hi. I think the company authorized can't speak english. Because the company is not institutional. If you want to buy the black screen. I can help you.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 01:18:00 »

your x9 looks superb........keep up the good work bro.... long live x9'ers........
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 16:52:28 »

Here are the new items I will do the installation after the other parts come to me.   


Malossi Air Filter:



Malossi Kevlar Belt:


Malossi Oil Filter:


Polini Clutch:







NGK Spark Plug Cover And Cable:



NGK Iridium Spark Plug:
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 22:40:17 »

The J Costa variator system is reached today. It has 12 roller. Each roller has 15 gr weight. So my top speed must be better. The first acceleration will be faster by Malossi belt, NGK spar plug and Polini clutch.



Now I only wait for my USA orders. 

Here is the technical details for this variator.

http://jcosta.uinfor.com/images/zoom/variadores/piaggio_250ie_evo_2.pdf

J Costa is the new and the best variator. We test the two variator system. Same scooters (2 X Gilera Runner VXR 200) use J Costa and Malossi variator. J Costa has better acceleration and top speed then other.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2009, 02:38:11 »

J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco.

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 06:08:19 »

J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco.

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard.


In Turkey the original Piaggio parts are very expensive. For example my X9 250 Evolution clutch is about 260 Euro. But I buy my Polini clutch 57 Euro. The mirrors are about 240 Euro. We don't want to buy original parts in Turkey because of ridiculous price. So I think Malossi is cheap for me as J Costa But J Costa is more powerfull then the other.

Also scooters are expensive as the parts. Gilera GP 800 is about 11.700 Euro. Suzuki Burgman AN650 is about 13.500 Euro. So you can't see any GP 800 in Turkey. But Burgman 650 is very popular. The price are over priced because of the taxes.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 09:17:03 »

Here are the new photographs.







This photo is for understanding the size of variator



And this is the new part of my scooter. I see this part on internet. It's for signal but I don't use it for signal. I will use with the strob lamp.



You can see it on X9



And this is the engine oil for my bike



Authorized services use 5W-40 oil but I buy Castrol 10W-50.
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2009, 10:32:36 »

I want to do everything professional. So I think that I must measure the standart specification of my X9 250.
We measure the 0-100 km/s and 50-100 km/s acceleration. I will measure the new specificatin after the installation.

We get result by the Drift Box device. It can show the 0-100 acceleration, 50-100 acceleration, 100-200 acceleration, horse power, tork power, circiut time vs. But we can't see the horse power and etc, because of the automatic transmission. The device is working by the GPS. There are many sensors int the device. The automobile manufacturers like Audi, BMW, VW always use this equipment.

Lets start to measure...











First of all I want to say that Piaggio's indicator is working wrong. When I see the 100 km/s in the Drift Box device, the orijinal indicator show me 120km/s at the same time. So it has a wrong show about 20 km/s

Here is the DBN:



The acceleration is very proportional but its very slow. My 0-100 km/s acceleration is 17.49 sec. My 50-100 kms acceleration is 12.99 sec.

Here is the seconds.

10 km/s speed 0.71 sec
20 km/s speed 1.47 sec
30 km/s speed 2.37 sec
40 km/s speed 3.32 sec
50 km/s speed 4.44 sec
60 km/s speed 5.96 sec
70 km/s speed 7.83 sec
80 km/s speed 10.9 sec
90 km/s speed 13.12 sec
100 km/s speed 17.49 sec

We can see that speed drops after 70 km/s.  So my bike will be faster between the 70 km/s and 100 km/s after the installation the J Costa Variator. The rollers are 15.25 gram. I measure the rollers too



The red line is show us the acceleration. The line which is start at the top and going to down is show us the road slopes. The line which is doing traverse show us the G force.



And this DBN show us the curve of the road.

I will measure the specification after the installation.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2009, 11:41:13 »

I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2009, 11:55:27 »

I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.

The drift box device show us the 80 km/s speed is 10.9 sec. When I see the 100 km/s on the analog indicator of my bike, gps show me the 80 km/s. If you take a video of your bike running 0-100 you can see that your 0-100 acceleration is about 10.5 or 11 sec. I said that our indicator has wrong shown. So we imagine that our bike's 0-100 is about 10 sec but it doesn't.

I don't know anything about 500cc. You can see that after the 70 km/s speed 80,90,100km/s are come to bad end. But I don't think that 500 cc does that. Becase it has more power then 250cc. But I want to add a note. When I install the modification parts I will race with a 500cc

You can see the video on youtube. 400CC Honda Silverwing (with J costa variator) vs 600CC Honda Silverwing has a rolling race. And the winner is 400cc SW
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2009, 15:38:32 »

nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH   

Like the X9 night shots too
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2009, 08:51:26 »

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Don't forget that the majority of the world uses the metric system it's only really the UK and US who sill use Miles... and the x9's speedo has kph as the predominant value on there too.  it's quick enough to convert roughly, just divide by 8 and multiply by 5 (or just got for 2 thirds for a very approximate conversion).

Onurx9, Loving the detailed you've provided for your mod's   The carbon looks particularly good, and the level of detail of all of your work so far is superb!
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2009, 11:42:02 »

The 100km mark is pretty much the old imperial 60mph that we traditionally use for acceleration measuring, so an easy conversion. It's actually 62mph but what's 2mph? Less than the variable you will get on repeated tests.
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2009, 13:29:30 »

nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH  

Like the X9 night shots too

Sorry about this problem I forget to convert the kmh to mph.

Here is the mph datas:

6 mph speed 0.71 sec
12 mph speed 1.47 sec
19 mph speed 2.37 sec
25 mph speed 3.32 sec
31 mph speed 4.44 sec
37 mph speed 5.96 sec
43.5 mph speed 7.83 sec
50 mph speed 10.9 sec
56 mph speed 13.12 sec
62 mph speed 17.49 sec

So my 0-62 mph acceleration is 17.49 second. My 31-62 mph is 12.99 second.

kitf thank you. Glad you like it

Dave Milnes hi. I measure this result after a busy travel. My X9 made intenseness. The clutch made warm up too. I believe that I can do less time. I will measure the new results after the installation.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2009, 17:58:37 »

62 mph speed 17.49 sec    wow that seams Slow. thanks for the conversion for Us UK owners.
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