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The X Files ~ The Piaggio X Series => X9 Specific Stuff => Topic started by: onurx9 on July 15, 2009, 13:35:27



Title: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 15, 2009, 13:35:27
Hi there. Greetings from Turkey  :thumbup:

Today I start a new project. I called that "Custom X9".  ::lol:: I will share the new modifications of my x9 250 Evolution with you. My English is not good so sorry about this problem  :blush: You can ask anything you want about the modifications.

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09191/0222.jpg)

This is my standard x9 :)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09191/s1315.jpg)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09191/s2404.jpg)

Let's start the first modification. Carbon Fiber  :P

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09191/s4979.jpg)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09191/s6766.jpg)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09192/1162.jpg)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09192/2228.jpg)

(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09192/5543.jpg)

This is my friend Sebo. And those are the parts that going to be carbon fiber. Let's gooo  :D

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/373/58539610.jpg)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1974/96542883.jpg)

First we emery the top case part.

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4496/61400680.jpg)

Puting the carbon fiber and extent the size of the part.

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9058/43481215.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4052/51344789.jpg)

Make ready the magic mixture  :helmet:

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9959/21576010.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4200/70747924.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8084/33691390.jpg)

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1883/66310040.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/280/72105504.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7899/64770208.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8434/56180425.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7799/89572275.jpg)

We must do vacuum system for dial cover. Because of the flection.

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6259/49849868.jpg)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3803/49492491.jpg)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3458/27570412.jpg)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1066/56529011.jpg)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1437/40159472.jpg)

And the final view of my mirrors, dial cover and top case cover. I realy like them :)

(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3698/97414471.jpg)

The current photograph is there... I produced the new black wind mirror for my project.

Last week I buy a xenon system and a variator. It is J costa variator with 12 roller. And I will buy Polini clutch, Malossi oil filter, Malossi air filter, Malossi kevlar belt. And also I will do some exterior modifications.

Do you suggest anything else?

Greetings from Onur / Turkey-Istanbul


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Huskyteer on July 15, 2009, 13:39:31
I love the carbon-fibre look! Goes very well with the black, too.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Nunwin on July 15, 2009, 14:11:47
Yeh man, excellent job and what a lot of hard work you have put into it, groovey.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: gravyonmychin on July 15, 2009, 14:51:26
Very nice, impressive job by your mate.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: ShaunA on July 15, 2009, 15:07:39
Very impressive - well done it looks great


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: johnp on July 15, 2009, 16:15:25
I love the carbon fibre, well done. :thumbup:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on July 16, 2009, 21:31:37
In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 17, 2009, 19:27:54
Thanks to everybody for the wonderful messages.

In the last picture, how have you made you windscreen Dark Black Tint ?

Hi.

In Turkey, there is a place that can be product the same wind screen of X9. It's not a window tint. It's a new pleksiglas product. You can choose two colour. Black and the yellow. The black not so black. It's mixture with brown and black. I asked but they can't product another colours.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: spannerman on July 17, 2009, 19:44:46
'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
Well done, you must like it.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on July 17, 2009, 21:16:31
you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 22, 2009, 08:02:46
you got details of the company that make the X9 black screen - iam intrested

Hi. I think the company authorized can't speak english. Because the company is not institutional. If you want to buy the black screen. I can help you.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: x9 rider on July 23, 2009, 01:18:00
your x9 looks superb........keep up the good work bro.... long live x9'ers........


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 24, 2009, 16:52:28
Here are the new items :) I will do the installation after the other parts come to me.   :P


Malossi Air Filter:

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4679/91817536.jpg)

Malossi Kevlar Belt:
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9418/53116354.jpg)

Malossi Oil Filter:
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2214/93125232.jpg)

Polini Clutch:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7302/93018653.jpg)

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5273/53616052.jpg)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3613/69178543.jpg)


NGK Spark Plug Cover And Cable:

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4867/37028922.jpg)

NGK Iridium Spark Plug:
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5367/26914817.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 29, 2009, 22:40:17
The J Costa variator system is reached today. It has 12 roller. Each roller has 15 gr weight. So my top speed must be better. The first acceleration will be faster by Malossi belt, NGK spar plug and Polini clutch.

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7823/111pui.jpg)

Now I only wait for my USA orders.  ;)

Here is the technical details for this variator.

http://jcosta.uinfor.com/images/zoom/variadores/piaggio_250ie_evo_2.pdf

J Costa is the new and the best variator. We test the two variator system. Same scooters (2 X Gilera Runner VXR 200) use J Costa and Malossi variator. J Costa has better acceleration and top speed then other.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on July 30, 2009, 02:38:11
J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco. :D

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard. :(


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 30, 2009, 06:08:19
J Costa variator works very well - I have one in my Fuoco. :D

I'd NEVER buy anything 'Malossi'.  Over-priced and and sub-standard. :(


In Turkey the original Piaggio parts are very expensive. For example my X9 250 Evolution clutch is about 260 Euro. But I buy my Polini clutch 57 Euro. :) The mirrors are about 240 Euro. We don't want to buy original parts in Turkey because of ridiculous price. So I think Malossi is cheap for me as J Costa :D But J Costa is more powerfull then the other.

Also scooters are expensive as the parts. Gilera GP 800 is about 11.700 Euro. Suzuki Burgman AN650 is about 13.500 Euro. So you can't see any GP 800 in Turkey. But Burgman 650 is very popular. The price are over priced because of the taxes.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 30, 2009, 09:17:03
Here are the new photographs. :)

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6426/25559607.jpg)

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/557/78377608.jpg)

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2613/84566486.jpg)

This photo is for understanding the size of variator :)

(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5716/82660755.jpg)

And this is the new part of my scooter. I see this part on internet. It's for signal but I don't use it for signal. I will use with the strob lamp.

(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8660/94434767.jpg)

You can see it on X9 :)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/32/x92.jpg)

And this is the engine oil for my bike :)

(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4672/76188539.jpg)

Authorized services use 5W-40 oil but I buy Castrol 10W-50.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 01, 2009, 10:32:36
I want to do everything professional. So I think that I must measure the standart specification of my X9 250.
We measure the 0-100 km/s and 50-100 km/s acceleration. I will measure the new specificatin after the installation.

We get result by the Drift Box device. It can show the 0-100 acceleration, 50-100 acceleration, 100-200 acceleration, horse power, tork power, circiut time vs. But we can't see the horse power and etc, because of the automatic transmission. The device is working by the GPS. There are many sensors int the device. The automobile manufacturers like Audi, BMW, VW always use this equipment.

Lets start to measure...

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4627/27349871.jpg)

(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1668/37646401.jpg)

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5309/97856624.jpg)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5973/73278323.jpg)

(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5669/88574552.jpg)

First of all I want to say that Piaggio's indicator is working wrong. When I see the 100 km/s in the Drift Box device, the orijinal indicator show me 120km/s at the same time. So it has a wrong show about 20 km/s

Here is the DBN:

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5043/22937851.jpg)

The acceleration is very proportional but its very slow. My 0-100 km/s acceleration is 17.49 sec. My 50-100 kms acceleration is 12.99 sec.

Here is the seconds.

10 km/s speed 0.71 sec
20 km/s speed 1.47 sec
30 km/s speed 2.37 sec
40 km/s speed 3.32 sec
50 km/s speed 4.44 sec
60 km/s speed 5.96 sec
70 km/s speed 7.83 sec
80 km/s speed 10.9 sec
90 km/s speed 13.12 sec
100 km/s speed 17.49 sec

We can see that speed drops after 70 km/s.  So my bike will be faster between the 70 km/s and 100 km/s after the installation the J Costa Variator. The rollers are 15.25 gram. I measure the rollers too :)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4599/dall.jpg)

The red line is show us the acceleration. The line which is start at the top and going to down is show us the road slopes. The line which is doing traverse show us the G force.

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/350/dall2v.jpg)

And this DBN show us the curve of the road.

I will measure the specification after the installation.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: gravyonmychin on August 01, 2009, 11:41:13
I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 01, 2009, 11:55:27
I find it hard to believe your 250 will only do the 0-62mph(100kph) dash in 17 secs. Think something amiss here. Up to 60 it about keeps up with a 500 which is around 8 secs I think give or take one or two, a Treblanc can do it quicker, if this is a true and accurate reading Im glad I bought the 500.

The drift box device show us the 80 km/s speed is 10.9 sec. When I see the 100 km/s on the analog indicator of my bike, gps show me the 80 km/s. If you take a video of your bike running 0-100 you can see that your 0-100 acceleration is about 10.5 or 11 sec. I said that our indicator has wrong shown. So we imagine that our bike's 0-100 is about 10 sec but it doesn't.

I don't know anything about 500cc. You can see that after the 70 km/s speed 80,90,100km/s are come to bad end. But I don't think that 500 cc does that. Becase it has more power then 250cc. But I want to add a note. :) When I install the modification parts I will race with a 500cc :)

You can see the video on youtube. 400CC Honda Silverwing (with J costa variator) vs 600CC Honda Silverwing has a rolling race. And the winner is 400cc SW :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on August 01, 2009, 15:38:32
nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it :( to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH   :)

Like the X9 night shots too :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: kitf on August 02, 2009, 08:51:26
It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it :( to us UK mph figures.

Don't forget that the majority of the world uses the metric system it's only really the UK and US who sill use Miles... and the x9's speedo has kph as the predominant value on there too.  it's quick enough to convert roughly, just divide by 8 and multiply by 5 (or just got for 2 thirds for a very approximate conversion).

Onurx9, Loving the detailed you've provided for your mod's :)  The carbon looks particularly good, and the level of detail of all of your work so far is superb!


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Dave Milnes on August 02, 2009, 11:42:02
The 100km mark is pretty much the old imperial 60mph that we traditionally use for acceleration measuring, so an easy conversion. It's actually 62mph but what's 2mph? Less than the variable you will get on repeated tests.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 02, 2009, 13:29:30
nice work you have done and allot of your own time to do and put here on the forum,

Good guy.

It a shame you use Kph   we in UK use mph so for every KMH you used i had to convert it :( to us UK mph figures.

Nice work, just a tip for use UK members ....    MPH   :)

Like the X9 night shots too :)

Sorry about this problem :) I forget to convert the kmh to mph.

Here is the mph datas:

6 mph speed 0.71 sec
12 mph speed 1.47 sec
19 mph speed 2.37 sec
25 mph speed 3.32 sec
31 mph speed 4.44 sec
37 mph speed 5.96 sec
43.5 mph speed 7.83 sec
50 mph speed 10.9 sec
56 mph speed 13.12 sec
62 mph speed 17.49 sec

So my 0-62 mph acceleration is 17.49 second. My 31-62 mph is 12.99 second.

kitf thank you. Glad you like it ;)

Dave Milnes hi. I measure this result after a busy travel. My X9 made intenseness. The clutch made warm up too. I believe that I can do less time. I will measure the new results after the installation.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on August 02, 2009, 17:58:37
62 mph speed 17.49 sec    wow that seams Slow. thanks for the conversion for Us UK owners.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 02, 2009, 18:21:35
62 mph speed 17.49 sec    wow that seams Slow. thanks for the conversion for Us UK owners.

Yes but when I see the 62 mph on my original indicator, GPS show me 50 mph. So we can understand that the original indicator has a wrong show. Its show us 12.43 mph much more.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on August 02, 2009, 18:36:05
All x9 speedos over-estimate the speed, most massively so.  Only the 500SL speedo was within 5% - the rest are easily 10% out at some speeds.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on August 03, 2009, 04:50:56
I think the best speed-O i seen is the digital ones like the bugmans 650, iv been told they read good.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on August 03, 2009, 07:23:19
They don't.  They are also optimistic.  They are also awful to read 'at a glance' subconsciously so the 650 owners tell me.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Big Ears on August 03, 2009, 07:38:55
Agreed Jim!

Nice big numbers, easy to see ... but numbers! You actually have to "read" them - not just glance.

They are 10% "over" right across the range. The error can be fixed with a *Speedo Healer (Google), but that makes the mileometer misread.


*A little device that fits between the sender and the dash, which re-times the pulses. Price circa £80!!  :o



Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 06, 2009, 17:46:52
Here is the new items. :)

The cleaning kit:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7683/86305631.jpg)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3626/69001380.jpg)

I think Meguiar's NXT 2.0 Wax is the best wax ever. I'll take the application photos ;)

This is the Licence plate cover :) But if you come to Turkey, you can drive friends  :D

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4574/58050903.jpg)

The stickers :)

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7940/48798118.jpg)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/93/40700956.jpg)

Pure Water for my radiator.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1813/49141850.jpg)

Bonus:  ::lol:: ::lol:: :thumbup:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9075/12001122.jpg)

Hope you enjoy friends.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 06, 2009, 17:52:18
And this is the weight of my J Costa variator's roller.

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5759/16181234.jpg)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5772/97853766.jpg)

When I put 1 roller it show 15.2 grams. When I put 2 roller it show me 30.5 grams. So I roller has a weight of 15.25 grams.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: evon610c on August 09, 2009, 19:36:01
Excellent job onur congrat,

We are waiting for your bike's new performance after your parts have been put inside  ;)



Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 14, 2009, 07:58:43
Here is the new battery.

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9238/75797552.jpg)

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1332/17098069.jpg)

New and old battery  :unsure:
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5959/43618217.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/121/44011553.jpg)

New battery is 12 volt and 14 ah. The old battery was 12 volt and 12 ah. I used 14 ah because I will change the headlight with the xenon kit.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on August 16, 2009, 10:00:52
nice i have doing that on my x9.
i put xenon H7 on low beam and 14ah battery


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 18, 2009, 12:33:06
Hi friends. I put in J Costa variator last weekend. It's magnificent, fantastic and make my bike faster. Here are the loading photographs.


(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8012/15622036.jpg)

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3118/42188189.jpg)

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6632/57464740.jpg)

First we take the clutch. If you throw back the clutch it's easily dislocate.

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4075/60304311.jpg)

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2028/44563899.jpg)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9349/20382926.jpg)

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5026/50990666.jpg)

That's the original variator and the J Costa variator. The left one which is original has 6 roller. J costa has 12 roller and they product the new technology.

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2803/39215751.jpg)

The differance of two roller

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7392/54968929.jpg)

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5638/45541366.jpg)

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8871/54963554.jpg)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6300/41024502.jpg)

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6448/43572240.jpg)

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/788/51883753.jpg)

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4112/16180051.jpg)

J Costa has loaded. Lets try it with a Gilera Runner VXR 200 which has full loaded Malossi equipment

My friend drive my bike and I record the video. He drive because he is light weight then me. :rolleyes:

First video: Piaggio X9 with J Costa variator vs Full Malossi loaded Gilera Runner VXR 200

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Piaggio-X9-250-Evolution_701689.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Piaggio-X9-250-Evolution_701689.htm)

Second video: Stock Aprilia Sportcity 250 vs Full Malossi loaded Gilera Runner VXR 200 (Let's see the third bike :P)

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Aprilia-Sportcity-vs_701824.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Aprilia-Sportcity-vs_701824.htm)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jdb_freeheel on August 19, 2009, 01:09:57
Looks great. Thanks for the pictures.

My local shop, while trying to figure out a fluctuating tachometer (no engine revs when this happens), is going to install the J Costa variator on my X9 500 evo. It currently has the old, original 6 weight variator. I'm hoping that performance will increase, as well as perhaps less noise (barking seal) from the belt.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on August 19, 2009, 06:52:31
Well i have to say, Good Bike and Good Pictures there and a grate Video. To good to see  People keeping the X9 range alive.

Good work i say.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 19, 2009, 07:23:06
Looks great. Thanks for the pictures.

My local shop, while trying to figure out a fluctuating tachometer (no engine revs when this happens), is going to install the J Costa variator on my X9 500 evo. It currently has the old, original 6 weight variator. I'm hoping that performance will increase, as well as perhaps less noise (barking seal) from the belt.

Hi. Thank you for your message. I heared that when you put in J costa to your 500cc scooter you can have 8 wheel horse power. And also it will have less noise. But I want to say that when I put in the J Costa it's sounds very very interesting. When the rpm goes to 8000 and I leave the gas rev going down and I heared a sound like a plane. Yes like a plane :D
I will take a video for this. Keep watching ;)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 19, 2009, 07:27:32
Well i have to say, Good Bike and Good Pictures there and a grate Video. To good to see  People keeping the X9 range alive.

Good work i say.

Hi Thank you for your message. I will put in the other items next week and will take new videos. I want to say that every X9 owner should experience this pleasure. Thank you friends. ;)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 21, 2009, 12:21:34
Stock Piaggio X9 250 Evolution 0-100 acceleration.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Stock-Piaggio-X9-250-0100_702582.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Stock-Piaggio-X9-250-0100_702582.htm)

Piaggio X9 250 Evolution 0-100 acceleration with J Costa.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Piaggio-X9-250-0100-with_702581.htm

And this is the new sound after the J Costa variator...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J-Costa-Variator-sound_702584.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J-Costa-Variator-sound_702584.htm)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jdb_freeheel on August 21, 2009, 14:31:01
Interesting "plane" sound. I get my 500 back from the shop today so I'll be curious to see if my new J Costa sounds similar.

My mechanic called me yesterday and told me that the difference between the stock 6 weight variator and the J Costa variator is amazing. This was the first mod of this type they'd done. He took my 500 for a test ride yesterday afternoon and said it felt like a rocketship/motorbike from 25mph and up. He said he didn't notice much difference between 0-25.

I'm excited to see it for myself.



Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 21, 2009, 15:29:21
Interesting "plane" sound. I get my 500 back from the shop today so I'll be curious to see if my new J Costa sounds similar.

My mechanic called me yesterday and told me that the difference between the stock 6 weight variator and the J Costa variator is amazing. This was the first mod of this type they'd done. He took my 500 for a test ride yesterday afternoon and said it felt like a rocketship/motorbike from 25mph and up. He said he didn't notice much difference between 0-25.

I'm excited to see it for myself.



I think if you buy Malossi kevlar belt and Polini clutch you can fell the difference between 0-25 :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on August 21, 2009, 17:31:16
Forget the "Malossi Kevlar Belt" - the Piaggio one *is* Kevlar, they just don't make a song and dance about it.  It's also cheaper...


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jdb_freeheel on August 21, 2009, 21:26:12
Got my 500 back today. The J Costa variator is soooo much better. I still use stock belts and stock clutch, but I am very pleased with the performance. It rides significantly smoother, the barking seal is minimized (not gone but mostly forgotten), and the pick up and really peppy  around 3000rpm and above.  I'm very happy with this mod.

-Josh


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 21, 2009, 22:13:26
Forget the "Malossi Kevlar Belt" - the Piaggio one *is* Kevlar, they just don't make a song and dance about it.  It's also cheaper...

We will use the belt with Nexus 500 which has use the same engine with X9 500. And I will tell you the changes :)

I think the original belt is warming when you drive higher rpm. I read from a web site that Malossi kevlar belt is durable then original.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 21, 2009, 22:15:10
Got my 500 back today. The J Costa variator is soooo much better. I still use stock belts and stock clutch, but I am very pleased with the performance. It rides significantly smoother, the barking seal is minimized (not gone but mostly forgotten), and the pick up and really peppy  around 3000rpm and above.  I'm very happy with this mod.

-Josh

So we can say that "Thank you J Costa"  :D


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on August 21, 2009, 22:35:21
I think the original belt is warming when you drive higher rpm. I read from a web site that Malossi kevlar belt is durable then original.
Don't believe everything on the Internet!  Malossi belts tend to shred with little notice, and rarely if ever last longer than the minimum expected from an OEM belt.

However, I expect they might be cheaper where you are then the originals - in which case they may make sense even if they have to be changed more often.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: DaveW on August 25, 2009, 16:55:48
I don't think I have read a more complete report on a project.
thanks for posting.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 26, 2009, 17:21:05
Hi friends. Last weekend I finish the performance upgrade. Here are the photographs.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1400/12845287.jpg)

Here you can see the differance of Malossi filter and the original filter.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4397/76662274.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4763/57595892.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6039/26905906.jpg)

Later I putted the Malossi kevlar belt. The right one in the photo is Malossi belt.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8105/22071957.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3033/21573623.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9025/78012133.jpg)

And then me and my friends do the next operation. Thanks to my friends Sinan and Arda for the help.
The next operation is for malet. We tell malet but I don't know how to say in English :) The item is brake lever.

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2968/44281400.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8466/71812816.jpg)

I stand at the right side :)

(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4442/72745478.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5669/63651573.jpg)

First I emery the brake lever.
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/685/20808306.jpg)

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/678/45914525.jpg)

(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7388/10568067.jpg)

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7021/98571119.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1551/25792532.jpg)

Here is the result.  :thumbup:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7079/69818686.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 26, 2009, 17:21:33
Hi friends. Last weekend I finish the performance upgrade. Here are the photographs.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1400/12845287.jpg)

Here you can see the differance of Malossi filter and the original filter.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4397/76662274.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4763/57595892.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6039/26905906.jpg)

Later I putted the Malossi kevlar belt. The right one in the photo is Malossi belt.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8105/22071957.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3033/21573623.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9025/78012133.jpg)

And then me and my friends do the next operation. Thanks to my friends Sinan and Arda for the help.
The next operation is for malet. We tell malet but I don't know how to say in English :) The item is brake lever.

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2968/44281400.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8466/71812816.jpg)

I stand at the right side :)

(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4442/72745478.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5669/63651573.jpg)

First I emery the brake lever.
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/685/20808306.jpg)

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/678/45914525.jpg)

(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7388/10568067.jpg)

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7021/98571119.jpg)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1551/25792532.jpg)

Here is the result.  :thumbup:

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7079/69818686.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 26, 2009, 17:32:51
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7889/46547769.jpg)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3046/63470869.jpg)

I had a gasket problem. The oil infect to the variator, clutch and the belt. We clean all of them and put in new gasket. The problem is solve.

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1083/47020887.jpg)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9524/22746271.jpg)

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1558/39185769.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/238/87982561.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7462/28903241.jpg)

Then we put in the Polini clutch.

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7941/21187196.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5293/88556981.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3339/91377958.jpg)

(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4056/48002835.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3146/34816708.jpg)

After clutch, we put in the Malossi oil filter and Castrol 10W-50 oil. But I want to say that do not use 10W-50 oil. When I put in, bike has a comfortable acceleration. But the rpm was limited in 7000 rpm. So I change the oil with 5W-40. And now it works very well. And up to 9500 rpm.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8605/19128401.jpg)

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2320/41314111.jpg)

The last part is for the spark plug.

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4825/72106637.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/210/69473674.jpg)

(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6691/16629332.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9674/36077124.jpg)

Hope you like  :rolleyes:



Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: johnH on August 26, 2009, 17:46:32
onurx9, I believe you could get a job here just taking care of the forum's bikes.  ;)
How many X9s are outside your workroom?


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 26, 2009, 18:06:31
onurx9, I believe you could get a job here just taking care of the forum's bikes.  ;)
How many X9s are outside your workroom?

Hi johnH. :)
This place is the authorized service of Piaggio. But the owner of the service is realy close acquaintance. We have a scooter site in Turkey. I suggest this service all of our forum's bike. One thay if you come to Turkey/Istanbul, you can prefer this service. :)

I will do new additionals. Like new Leo Vince 4 road exhaust and Malossi tork driver. I will send new photographs when I buy them. Thank you for your all support messages. ;)

I think it will be the fastest X9 250 Evolution in the world :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on August 27, 2009, 08:15:25
Nice work ......    Given me soem tips too for my Piaggio X9 125 Evo


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: x9 rider on August 31, 2009, 06:55:00
well done.....marvellous......


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on October 06, 2009, 17:58:30
Here are my new tyre valve caps.

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4689/sibop2.jpg)

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1959/sibop1.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on October 07, 2009, 08:28:21
you done the  xenon system yet ? lights ? HID


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on October 07, 2009, 17:19:26
Not yet friend. I will put in the xenon kit, oem signal and strobe light on friday night ;)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on May 28, 2010, 22:33:22
Hi friends. My project has come close to the end. I'm waiting for the Arrow Reflex exhaust.

I didn't import photos for a long time. This is the current look of my x9. ;)

First of all I change my service. The new service's name is Kadıköy Motor. Kadikoy is a town in istanbul. And the perfect master's name is Kadir Özen. I think he is the best Piaggio master in Turkey. Thank you Kadıköy Motor and thank you Kadir Özen. :)

In this process, first as the sorry I've painted wheels, front dampers and the bakelite. Bakelite painted the orijinal colour of my x9. Wheels and the front dampers are the same colour. It's matte grey colour. I select this colour from the Vespa Colour catalog.
Then I paint the inside of the headlight, rear lights and front mirror signals... After them I paint the variator cover and the swing behinde the exhaust to matte black. I change the spark plug to orijinal. Because the iridium spark plug make me burn more fuel.

Here are the last photos of my Bike.

BEFORE:

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/292/x92kl0.jpg)

(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3784/x94xw6.jpg)

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1685/x912by3.jpg)

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7943/x924oy9.jpg)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1834/x95vg1.jpg)

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8803/x925ku4.jpg)

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/254/x98mm9.jpg)

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6652/x911ou2.jpg)

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2519/x99yr2.jpg)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1740/x926nw4.jpg)

AFTER:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/fulzds.jpg)

(http://i44.tinypic.com/35lspjb.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/14e6gw2.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/muzjlv.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/28hg0uo.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/wrxoo2.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/70vtqv.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/sy5dlj.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/715id0.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/33c9qg8.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/akbk11.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: jimc on May 28, 2010, 23:40:51
Nice. :)  Well done. :D


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: johnp on May 29, 2010, 05:47:26
That is very nice. :clap:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Derek on May 29, 2010, 06:13:22
Super looking bike.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: johnH on May 30, 2010, 10:59:27
Wow !!!  A really wonderful looking bike.  Some of the photographs could be from a motorbike magazine.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on May 30, 2010, 22:16:53
Wow !!!  A really wonderful looking bike.  Some of the photographs could be from a motorbike magazine.

I'm working for a tuning magazine in Turkey. :) I take photographs and writing some articles :)

Thank you for your messages friends.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: nolezmaj on May 31, 2010, 20:02:05
Great project and great looking bike! Really nice photos also - your Canon works really good  ;)

Perhaps you would not mind friendly suggestion - using largest aperture size (i.e. f/2.8 or smaller if possible) and adequate short exposition on some of your photos will give you that no-depth-of-field (only focused field is sharp, the rest is blurry) style that enhances details perfectly (just like in your last photo).

Keep up the good work  :clap:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: amiga-mark on June 15, 2010, 20:12:15
WOW.

Amazing detail and brilliant project.

I wish I had the time, tools, money, availability of parts and the confidence.  I did a very similar job with my two stroke 125 Typhoon, rebuilt engine, carb, variator, exhaust system, resprayed everything, new lights wheels tyres etc, and this was very exciting and satisfying. But your project is another level.

Excellent.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: x9cipro on July 26, 2010, 18:14:31
You must be very proud of your work well done pal :x9blu:

I have trouble getting the plastic panells off let alown doing machanicy stuff :blush: :blush:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on July 27, 2010, 22:16:02
Is it original ignition coil? Have you replaced him? My ignition coil is supplied with wire. with you in the topic, the ignition coil and wires give the disconnect, as the yen is possible


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 30, 2010, 06:17:49
Hi mrcina.

It's NGK product which is for X9 250 Evolution. I take the orijinal and install the NGK. It sold with the cable and the spark plug cap.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on July 30, 2010, 09:23:34
ignition coil is a product of NGK ??  what you originally took to install an NGK.

I searched the whole net and not found.

where you found the ignition coil and how much you paid for it.

from the theme and the picture is not visible much, so I asked you if we can clarify some things, but in detail, what you bought together and which separately.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 31, 2010, 09:11:57
ignition coil is a product of NGK ??  what you originally took to install an NGK.

I searched the whole net and not found.

where you found the ignition coil and how much you paid for it.

from the theme and the picture is not visible much, so I asked you if we can clarify some things, but in detail, what you bought together and which separately.

Sorry :) I write to first page that my English is not so good. :) I want to ask a question if I understand wrong.

Are you talking about this product? If it is true I bought it about 22 Euro in Turkey.

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4867/37028922.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 31, 2010, 09:25:36
Hi friends. Finaly my exhaust come. Its the Reflex model of Arrow. Sound is good and looking so cute. :) Exhaust headers looking so beautiful.  :x9:

(http://i32.tinypic.com/6ih5p3.jpg)

(http://i32.tinypic.com/absa5s.jpg)

(http://i25.tinypic.com/25u007q.jpg)

(http://i25.tinypic.com/8yrn8k.jpg)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/ts10.jpg)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/2vaio37.jpg)

Here our new Vuvuzela :)

(http://i32.tinypic.com/v4m92r.jpg)

The Silencer

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2s412.jpg)

Final image

(http://i32.tinypic.com/15dkpp3.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on July 31, 2010, 09:29:09
Next week I will upload the new brake discs photo ;)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on July 31, 2010, 16:58:25
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9674/36077124.jpg)   this its ignition coil.


what you are doing that you conect this (http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9674/36077124.jpg) with this (http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4867/37028922.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 02, 2010, 06:42:27
Ok I understand now. :) This part is orijinal for my bike.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on August 08, 2010, 07:41:00
ok but you have not answered to my question

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9674/36077124.jpg)

how did you connect the yellow wire with ignition coil


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on August 19, 2010, 08:21:28
I take off the original wire and push the yellow. Thats all :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: mrcina on August 19, 2010, 12:33:31
ok


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: onurx9 on September 23, 2010, 20:19:21
Hi friends. The project continues with the brake disc.

The new discs are EBC brand. Can I have your comments?

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/424/76645180.jpg)

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8527/46961232.jpg)

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3760/54683648.jpg)

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1872/61566272.jpg)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: alphacrust on September 23, 2010, 20:46:49
Hmmm, undecided on those...  They look a bit too much like a flower to me. :)


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: X9-125-Evo on November 03, 2010, 02:31:11
any more work ?


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Solo on August 06, 2013, 13:40:49
What happened to this guy ?


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: joyce on August 06, 2013, 14:20:41
The thread is nearly 3yrs old, he is marked as guest so no idea when he was last on the forum.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Solo on August 06, 2013, 17:20:32
guest- must mean he deleted his profile and left ?


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Big Ears on August 06, 2013, 17:56:30
Correct.



Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Solo on August 07, 2013, 11:34:07
He did some good write up and pictures were good!


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: sinky on August 07, 2013, 15:33:01
WOW Never seen that before. Very nice!


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Col the Brummy on August 29, 2013, 09:14:13
My 2001, 250 x9 does 0-60 in about 17 seconds also. This is crap. My 30 year old honda c90 does it in 12.5 seconds with no mods and 50,000+ on the clock.  The book says the 250 should do 0-60 mph in 10.5 seconds. Everything else about the x9 is good but acceleration is laughable, I will follow onurx9's progress with interest


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Col the Brummy on August 29, 2013, 09:45:53
Oops, sorry. I put that last post up before I realised the original stuff was from 2010. I need to pay more attention. My teachers were right all along


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Mottza on August 29, 2013, 11:07:30
I don't think the 250 could do 0-60 in 10.5 secs.

Maybe 15 secs.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Dave Milnes on August 29, 2013, 11:14:01
The 250 Evo might.


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Col the Brummy on August 29, 2013, 12:47:33
My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means fitting a nitrous oxide kit to it


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Col the Brummy on August 29, 2013, 12:48:54
My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means putting the c90 cub engine in it


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: poldark on August 29, 2013, 12:50:15
My mission is to get the bugger to an indicated 60 mph in 10 seconds even if it means fitting a nitrous oxide kit to it

Without getting personal how much do you weigh, as it'd be easier for you to lose two stones and improve power/weight than trying to get the bike lighter/faster!   :whistle:


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Col the Brummy on August 29, 2013, 13:26:25
Yes you are quite right about power to weight. But wrong about it being easy for me to lose weight..I am a custard cream addict


Title: Re: X9 Project
Post by: Solo on May 22, 2018, 08:22:32
5 years later i still think this bike is a good one......